Today we’re examining several blog posts I discovered while researching the Ernie Gruen/Mike Bickle situation. These posts serve as a sober warning to pastors and Christian leaders, as they offer firsthand accounts of the fallout that comes when ministers fail.Aberrant Practices Document: https://tinyurl.com/y3hwhx2cBrandon McCoy | The Kansas City Prophet: https://tinyurl.com/2b83jhtbEmail From Ernie Gruen: https://tinyurl.com/bdhtpu79Matthew Hartke | From Charismatic to Agnostic: https://tinyurl.com/ppcs3fnxAndy Bondurant | A Faith Built to Last: https://tinyurl.com/34myzetkThanks for hanging out with me today!If you have been blessed by this content and would like to help support the things we do here, you may do so by visiting: https://www.sheepamongwolves.org/supportFor everything SAW-related, check out our official website:www.sheepamongwolves.orgQuestions, comments, concerns, snarks, or conundrums? E-mail me: chuck@sheepamongwolves.org You are now free to roam about the countryside!#christianity #apologetics #discipleship Sheep Among Wolves is an official ministry of Tularosa Community Church.

Ernie Gruen’s False Prophets (1990) includes both his own interview and the testimony of a former Kansas City Fellowship member. Together, they document alleged abuses of prophetic authority, fabricated revelations, and manipulative practices within KCF. Gruen’s interview outlines his pastoral concerns, while the ex-member’s testimony provides firsthand accounts of deception, fear, and disillusionment. Today, we're diving into Ernie Gruen’s interview and the testimony of the former Kansas City Fellowship member, as documented in his book False Prophets.Aberrant Practices Document: https://tinyurl.com/y3hwhx2cThanks for hanging out with me today!If you have been blessed by this content and would like to help support the things we do here, you may do so by visiting: https://www.sheepamongwolves.org/supportFor everything SAW-related, check out our official website:www.sheepamongwolves.orgQuestions, comments, concerns, snarks, or conundrums? E-mail me: chuck@sheepamongwolves.org You are now free to roam about the countryside!#christianity #apologetics #discipleship Sheep Among Wolves is an official ministry of Tularosa Community Church.

Following his sermon Do We Keep Smiling and Say Nothing?, Pastor Ernie Gruen issued an open letter to Mike Bickle and Kansas City Fellowship, charging the movement with aberrant practices, false prophecies, and spiritual manipulation, which Gruen believed were unbiblical and harmful, igniting a major controversy in the charismatic church world. It was later published in his book False Prophets and in the Aberrant Practices Document prepared with his staff. Today, we turn to that letter to uncover its warnings and consider their relevance for modern prophetic movements.Aberrant Practices Document: https://tinyurl.com/y3hwhx2cThanks for hanging out with me today!If you have been blessed by this content and would like to help support the things we do here, you may do so by visiting: https://www.sheepamongwolves.org/supportFor everything SAW-related, check out our official website:www.sheepamongwolves.orgQuestions, comments, concerns, snarks, or conundrums? E-mail me: chuck@sheepamongwolves.org You are now free to roam about the countryside!#christianity #apologetics #discipleship Sheep Among Wolves is an official ministry of Tularosa Community Church.

In the early 1990s, Kansas City pastor Ernie Gruen sounded an alarm against aberrant practices at Kansas City Fellowship—later known as the International House of Prayer (IHOP). His sermon, Do We Keep Smiling and Say Nothing?, was later published in his book False Prophets. Today, we revisit Gruen’s warning as we begin exploring the world of Mike Bickle, IHOP, and the Kansas City Prophets—and what their influence means for believers navigating modern prophetic movements.Aberrant Practices Document: https://tinyurl.com/y3hwhx2cThanks for hanging out with me today!If you have been blessed by this content and would like to help support the things we do here, you may do so by visiting: https://www.sheepamongwolves.org/supportFor everything SAW-related, check out our official website:www.sheepamongwolves.orgQuestions, comments, concerns, snarks, or conundrums? E-mail me: chuck@sheepamongwolves.org You are now free to roam about the countryside!#christianity #apologetics #discipleship Sheep Among Wolves is an official ministry of Tularosa Community Church.

In our tenth and final episode of our The Physics of Heaven series, we're going to be looking at two more chapters by co-author, Ellyn Davis. Chapter 11 and 12 deal greatly with quantum physics, quantum mysticism, and their compatibility with Christianity. At the end of chapter 12, the author states, "We believe that the closer and more dedicated our walk with God is, the more we can fully understand and experience the implications of what it means to be “one” with Him like Jesus was. We also believe that our experiences of being one with Him can actually become a way of life to the point that we will consistently be able to alter the nature of reality with our words, thoughts, and intentions."00:00:00 - Chapter 11 Introduction "Ellyn Davis: Strange Things Are Afoot00:05:21 - Let's Talk About Quantum Physics00:16:10 - Quantum Physics Are Strange00:24:06 - Quantum Physics Lead to Quantum Mysticism00:46:55 - Chapter 12 Introduction "Ellyn Davis: Quantum Mysticism"00:47:05 - Quantum Mysticism Leads to Christian Truths01:17:38 - Are Quantum Mysticism & Christianity Compatible?01:21:03 - God TruthsThanks for hanging out with me today!If you have been blessed by this content and would like to help support the things we do here, you may do so by visiting: https://www.sheepamongwolves.org/supportFor everything SAW-related, check out our official website:www.sheepamongwolves.orgQuestions, comments, concerns, snarks, or conundrums? E-mail me: chuck@sheepamongwolves.org You are now free to roam about the countryside!#christianity #apologetics #discipleship

In part nine of our series on The Physics of Heaven, the authors tell us "In this chapter, written from an interview, Larry Randolph explains why preparing for what is to come may mean learning to interact with God in many more ways than we ever imagined.00:00:00 - Chapter 10 Introduction "Larry Randolph: Spiritual Synesthesia" 00:15:47 - Something Is Coming00:38:40 - Extreme Supernatural Encounters00:46:12 - Tuning In To The God Radio01:17:47 - What This All Means For Us01:24:29 - God Told Me...Thanks for hanging out with me today!If you have been blessed by this content and would like to help support the things we do here, you may do so by visiting: https://www.sheepamongwolves.org/supportFor everything SAW-related, check out our official website:www.sheepamongwolves.orgQuestions, comments, concerns, snarks, or conundrums? E-mail me: chuck@sheepamongwolves.org You are now free to roam about the countryside!#christianity #apologetics #discipleship

In part eight of our series on The Physics of Heaven, the authors tell us "Cal Pierce’s interest in sound, light, and vibrations began with an angelic encounter. Here is his account of that encounter."00:00:00 - Chapter 9 Introduction "Cal Pierce: Angel Encounters"00:03:39 - An Angel Visited Me00:56:38 - The Creative Power of Sound01:02:08 - The Power of Our Words01:24:36 - Cal's ConclusionKenneth Hagin: What JESUS Taught Me About Angels https://tinyurl.com/2a9yfpw6How to Command Angels and Increase Your Wealth! https://tinyurl.com/3d4wjtjwThanks for hanging out with me today!If you have been blessed by this content and would like to help support the things we do here, you may do so by visiting: https://www.sheepamongwolves.org/supportFor everything SAW-related, check out our official website:www.sheepamongwolves.orgQuestions, comments, concerns, snarks, or conundrums? E-mail me: chuck@sheepamongwolves.org You are now free to roam about the countryside!#christianity #apologetics #discipleship

In part seven of our series on The Physics of Heaven, the authors tell us "Modern scientific discoveries have recently joined the voice of ancient sacred writings to pull back the veil of ignorance that once shrouded the power of sound in God’s universe. Today these applied sciences and theologies can be woven together toward the redemptive understanding of sounds that heal, deliver, destroy, and open up portals in the heavenly realms. This chapter shares a little of Dan McCollam’s insights about the amazing power that God has hidden for us in sound."00:00:00 - Chapter 8 Introduction "Dan McCollam: The God Vibration"00:07:53 - Science and Kingdom Thinking00:40:30 - Another Piece to the Puzzle00:52:51 - Dan's Closing ArgumentThanks for hanging out with me today!If you have been blessed by this content and would like to help support the things we do here, you may do so by visiting: https://www.sheepamongwolves.org/supportFor everything SAW-related, check out our official website:www.sheepamongwolves.orgQuestions, comments, concerns, snarks, or conundrums? E-mail me: chuck@sheepamongwolves.org You are now free to roam about the countryside!#christianity #apologetics #discipleship