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She Counts

She Counts

Di: Questian Telka EA & Nancy McClelland CPA
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She Counts brings together respected educators Nancy McClelland, CPA, and Questian Telka, EA, for candid conversations about what it’s really like to be a woman in accounting. Whether you’re in corporate, at a firm, or running your own show, this podcast offers a space to feel seen, heard, and understood. From taboo topics to everyday challenges, She Counts is more than a podcast—it’s a community where women in accounting, tax, and bookkeeping can come together and get real.© 2026 Questian Telka, EA & Nancy McClelland, CPA Economia Ricerca del lavoro Successo personale
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  • Trashie Cassie aka “Why You Need an Alter Ego: Acting With Authority Before You Feel Ready”

    Trashie Cassie aka “Why You Need an Alter Ego: Acting With Authority Before You Feel Ready”
    Jul 1 2026

    We all have moments that ask more of us than we think we're capable of giving: the difficult client conversation, the boundary that needs to be set, the meeting where it's time to speak up. It happened to Cassie Divine, too. In two decades leading at Intuit, she discovered that authority isn't something you earn once you feel ready. It's something you access when the moment demands it. Most career advice tells women to become more confident, more assertive, or more strategic. But what if you don't need to become someone new at all? Cassie joins Nancy and Questian to explore the idea of an alter ego—not as a fake persona, but as a way to access the version of yourself that's already proven she can do hard things. From the sixth-grade story that gave birth to "Trashy Cassie" to the executive conversations that later demanded her, they unpack why authority is a behavior, not a personality, and how to stop waiting until you feel ready.

    Sponsors
    Bill - http://bill.com/shecounts
    Relay - https://relayfi.com/shecounts
    Karbon - https://karbonhq.com/


    • (00:00) - Welcome and Sponsors
    • (01:16) - Meet Cassie Divine
    • (02:30) - Origin of Trashy Cassie
    • (06:38) - Executive Double Standard
    • (09:26) - Alter Ego as Access
    • (16:52) - Permission and Intentionality
    • (20:45) - Catalog Your Strengths
    • (24:14) - Celebrate Wins Rituals
    • (28:04) - Behavior Over Feelings
    • (29:57) - Act As If Confidence
    • (31:37) - Permission To Be Bold
    • (34:52) - Yoga Pants Shortcut
    • (36:20) - Focus On The Why
    • (40:36) - Evidence You Can Do Hard
    • (43:19) - Gratitude Interrupts Panic
    • (46:05) - Situational Armor Guardrails
    • (47:50) - Talk Less Say More
    • (53:16) - Career Hack Origin Story
    • (57:23) - Final Takeaways And Wrap

    Resources
    • Cassie Divine | LinkedIn
    • About — Cassie Divine
    • Career | Cassie Divine | Substack

    SPONSORS: [Bill, Relay, Karbon]


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    https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcast


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    Connect with Nancy

    https://www.thedancingaccountant.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpa


    Connect with Questian

    https://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/questian-telka-ea-78383666


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    This podcast is a production of Earmark Media
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  • Presence, Not Performance: The Confidence Others Feel Around You

    Presence, Not Performance: The Confidence Others Feel Around You
    Jun 17 2026

    The need for “executive presence” is the vague phrase that shows up in performance reviews as the reason women don't get the promotion – even though almost no one can define it. Lindsay Patterson, co-founder and CEO of CPA QualityPro, joins Nancy and Questian to strip it down to something simpler and more meaningful: instilling confidence in others that you're the right person for the job. They dig into the double-standard that turns an assertive woman into "aggressive"; what to do when office culture rewards the loudest jerk in the room; and why walking away from a toxic culture is never failure.

    Sponsors
    Bill - http://bill.com/shecounts
    Relay - https://relayfi.com/shecounts
    Karbon - https://karbonhq.com/


    • (00:00) - Welcome to She Counts
    • (01:14) - Meet Lindsay Patterson
    • (04:14) - First-Day Reporter Shock
    • (07:07) - Lessons on Respect and Power
    • (08:18) - Defining Executive Presence
    • (11:45) - Double Standards and Toxic Cultures
    • (17:13) - Presence Without Assimilation
    • (19:35) - Being Yourself in Leadership
    • (23:28) - Overprepared to Be Taken Seriously
    • (25:07) - Research Gravitas Competence Warmth
    • (27:46) - Practical Steps to Build Presence
    • (29:30) - Rehearse Like a Pro
    • (29:58) - Audio vs Body Language
    • (32:00) - Handling Tech Chaos
    • (32:31) - Dress Rehearsal Wardrobe
    • (33:51) - Zoom Outfit Fails
    • (35:05) - Camera On Executive Presence
    • (37:29) - Zoom Setup and Focus
    • (38:14) - Confidence and Composure
    • (40:08) - First Impressions Take Space
    • (42:32) - Navigating the Double Bind
    • (44:24) - Power Systems and Allies
    • (47:28) - Bias Culture and Inclusion
    • (50:04) - Everyone Is Faking It
    • (53:34) - Confidence Equals Preparation
    • (55:40) - Community and Final Signoff

    Show notes:
    • Guest on LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/lindsaypatterson
    • CPA QualityPro – cpaqualitypro.com
    • The Accounting Podcast – “Solving for CPA Mobility with Lindsay Patterson” – accounting.show/472
    • Amy Cuddy TED Talk – “Your body language may shape who you are” – ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy
    • Sylvia Ann Hewlett – Executive Presence: The Missing Link Between Merit and Success
    • Earmark CPE – earmark.app

    SPONSORS: [Bill, Relay, Karbon]


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    https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcast


    Subscribe on YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcast


    Follow She Counts on IG

    https://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/


    Connect with Nancy

    https://www.thedancingaccountant.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpa


    Connect with Questian

    https://www.reqoncilefinancials.com/
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  • The Courage to Be Nominated: Wanting It, Dreading It

    The Courage to Be Nominated: Wanting It, Dreading It
    Jun 3 2026
    Nancy and special guest Melissa Miller Furgeson, stepping in for Questian, get honest about the awards nomination cycle in accounting: the longing for recognition tangled up with the dread of asking to be nominated, the fear of losing in public, and the jealousy and imposter feelings most of us have but few admit. They reframe awards as visibility events rather than verdicts, and talk through why showing up, even when you feel undeserving, gives the people around you permission to do the same.SponsorsBill - http://bill.com/shecountsRelay - https://relayfi.com/shecountsKarbon - https://karbonhq.com/(00:00) - Welcome and Sponsors(01:28) - Episode Theme Awards Anxiety(02:00) - Nomination Text Thread Story(05:07) - Application Glitches and Follow Up(09:33) - Middle School Energy and Visibility(11:43) - Asking to Be Nominated(13:16) - Fear of Losing and Imposter Feelings(17:16) - Jealousy and List Shame Spiral(20:38) - Age Based Awards and Pride(22:45) - Awards as Visibility Machines(25:47) - Nominations Matter Most(26:22) - Sharing the Nomination(28:04) - Awards as Visibility Engines(29:13) - Visibility Gives Permission(30:06) - Ask Anyway Mindset(32:41) - Community Beats Imposter Feelings(34:53) - Why Support Feels Vulnerable(36:08) - Nomination Frenzy Success(39:25) - Discomfort Means Growth(41:45) - Practical Ways to Show Up(44:52) - Scripts for Self Promotion(47:12) - Tag Sponsors and Amplify(48:10) - Final Takeaways and Call In(50:53) - Closing Quote and FarewellResourcesMelissa Miller Furgeson on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissamillerfurgeson/Insightful Accountant's 2026 Top U.S. ProAdvisor: https://blog.insightfulaccountant.com/insightful-accountants-2026-top-u.s.-proadvisor-awardsInsightful Accountant's 2026 Top Advisor Awards: https://blog.insightfulaccountant.com/insightful-accountants-2026-top-advisor-awards Scaling New Heights - https://www.woodard.com/scaling-new-heights-2026Bridging the Gap - https://www.btgconference.com/Forbes Best-in-State - https://www.forbes.com/lists/best-in-state-cpas/Kate Johnson on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-josephine-mcgill-johnson/Ask a CPA - http://aska.cpa/Bookkeeping Buds - https://www.bookkeepingbuds.com/Financial Cents Top Firm Owners to Follow - https://financial-cents.com/resources/articles/top-accounting-bookkeeping-firm-owners-to-follow/Theatre of Public Speaking - https://publicspeaking.mistymegia.com/?ref=857055AICPA Global Women to Watch - https://www.aicpa-cima.com/membership/article/aicpa-and-cima-global-women-to-watchAccounting Cornerstone Foundation - https://accountingcornerstone.org/Alicia Katz Pollock Unofficial QBO Accountant’s Podcast - https://uqb.show/141Bookkeeping Buds - https://www.bookkeepingbuds.com/Cindy Schroeder on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brightbooks/Nancy McClelland’s LinkedIn post re: Ask a CPA members in Top 100 - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:share:7442429419517837312/Varonica Frye LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7465778446334357504/Jackie Meyer LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jackiemeyercpa_jackie-meyer-cpa-cca-phd-candidate-activity-7314405422084300800-Ba9YSandy Rehart LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sandyrehart_news-i-was-selected-in-insightful-accountants-activity-7467312899435286528-lYj7Heather Deibele LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7445849113671397376/Donna Reade LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donnareade_i-almost-didnt-post-this-and-it-was-hard-activity-7445940183075627008-_T9n/Debra Kilsheimer LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/debliberate_insightfulaccountant-top100-accountingawards-share-7443370349401923584-8vvh/Nicole Davis LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicoledaviscpa_womentalking-entrepreneurship-entrepreneur-activity-7120392377961254914-xanR/Candy Bellau on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/candybellau/Jamie Peña on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-pe%C3%B1a-teamlegacy/SPONSORS: [Bill, Relay, Karbon] Join Our LinkedIn Page!https://www.linkedin.com/company/she-counts-podcastSubscribe on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SheCountsPodcastFollow She Counts on IGhttps://www.instagram.com/shecounts.show/Connect with Nancyhttps://www.thedancingaccountant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-mcclelland-cpaConnect with Questianhttps://www.r...
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