The second of two interviews with game designer Ken St. Andre, this time focusing on his video game design history (see part one for discussion around his tabletop RPG design). Games discussed in this episode: Tunnels & Trolls: Crusaders of Khazan, Adventure Construction Set, Wasteland (without which there would be no Fallout), and Wasteland 2. Ken's favorite Christopher Reeve Superman movie. One of Shane's pet peeves with current superhero comic book stories (especially DC). The origins of storytelling. Did the Empire from Star Wars have a good side? What happened when Ken and Roberta Williams of Sierra On-Line offered Ken a job? What two classic 80s action flicks helped inspire Wasteland (one is sort of obvious, one might not be), and what does Daffy Duck have to do with it all? What does the Mercenaries, Spies and Private Eyes RPG have to do with Tunnels & Trolls, and what do they both have to do with Wasteland? Ken's thoughts on being involved with Wasteland 2. Ken's never-released superhero game version of Tunnels & Trolls called Power Trip. The most important rule in Tunnels & Trolls (as opposed to the most important principle). Watch out for snollygosters. Ken's thoughts on power scale in superhero RPGs (think Batman and Superman in the same fight). Q&A with Ken based on questions submitted by Matt Barton of Matt Chat. Ken's advice for game designers. What would Ken have done differently in his career? Cockroach population analysis. How Ken made it into the Hall of Fame.

Shane Plays Geek Talk Episode #290 - 4/30/2026

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Ken St. Andre Part 1 – Shane Plays Geek Talk Episode 288 – 3/8/2026
https://shaneplays.com/rpg-designer-ken-st-andre-part-1-podcast/

Ken St. Andre on Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_St._Andre

Trollgodfather Press (Ken's Publishing Company)
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/publisher/9559/trollgodfather-press

Wasteland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_(video_game)

Wasteland 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_2

Tunnels & Trolls: Crusaders of Khazan
https://mobygames.com/game/3398/tunnels-trolls-crusaders-of-khazan/

Adventure Construction Set
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_Construction_Set

Dungeons and Desktops: The History of Computer Role-Playing Games 2nd Edition
Shane's book! Co-authored with Matt Barton of Matt Chat
https://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Desktops-History-Computer-Role-Playing/dp/1138574643/

The one and only, amazing, science fiction and fantasy writer, game designer, and poet, John M. Ford (aka "Mike") with Dr. Victor Raymond. A very quick Tékumel update. John M. Ford won a prestigious award for a Christmas card. In addition to his novel writing, he also wrote for RPGs, including Traveller, GURPS, Star Trek, Paranoia, and Ghostbusters. Paranoia is a joyful HOOT. John M. Ford's take on Klingons (including linguistics) is excellent and sublime, and it's a shame it's not Star Trek canon. "Realistic" space combat in science fiction. Reading a John M. Ford novel is a very rewarding exercise in inference. Recommendations on where to start in his bibliography. A brief digression into Harlan Ellison. Sweet memories of Mike (and Darklands, too).

Shane Plays Geek Talk Episode #289 - 3/30/2026

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John M. Ford on Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Ford

The Disappearance of John M. Ford by Isaac Butler
https://slate.com/culture/2019/11/john-ford-science-fiction-fantasy-books.html

Bibliography: John M. Ford on the Internet Speculative Fiction Database
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?226

Dungeons and Desktops: The History of Computer Role-Playing Games 2nd Edition
Shane's book! Co-authored with Matt Barton of Matt Chat
https://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Desktops-History-Computer-Role-Playing/dp/1138574643/

Historic RPG designer Ken St. Andre (Tunnels & Trolls, Starfaring, Monsters! Monsters!, Stormbringer, more) joins for this episode. The game that shall not be named. Is it wise to go into dungeons as an adventurer, or do you just need luck? The practicality of six-siders versus Platonic solids. The most powerful buttons in the universe. Who's tougher, the Romulans or the Klingons? Marbles were the collectible card game of their day. Diplomacy variants. Gary Gygax's first introduction to Tunnels & Trolls. Dave Arneson's contribution to Flying Buffalo Games. Ken's impressions of Dave. Ken's opinion on whether OD&D was an actual RPG. Ken told TSR's lawyers, and I quote, "go piss up a rope." Ken's advice to game designers. Clever solutions in dealing with a Balrog. What is "stunting" in an RPG? Tunnels & Trolls on the MetaArcade app. Ken and Shane's predictions about AI's effect on the RPG industry. Mata Hari. Ken was a pioneer in solo RPG adventures (which Shane feels is important). What game of Ken's does he think is better than Tunnels & Trolls? Some Elric discussion. The secret brotherhood of librarians (or lack thereof). A brief diversion into chicken psychology.

Shane Plays Geek Talk Episode #288 - 3/8/2026

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SHOW NOTES

Ken St. Andre on Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_St._Andre

Trollgodfather Press (Ken's Publishing Company)
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/publisher/9559/trollgodfather-press

Tunnels & Trolls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnels_%26_Trolls

Starfaring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfaring

Monsters! Monsters!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsters!_Monsters!

Stormbringer RPG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormbringer_(role-playing_game)

Dungeons and Desktops: The History of Computer Role-Playing Games 2nd Edition
Shane's book! Co-authored with Matt Barton of Matt Chat
https://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Desktops-History-Computer-Role-Playing/dp/1138574643/