In this episode of Diversity Conversations, Eric Ellis and Tommie Lewis explore what it really takes to lead when life feels heavy, emotions run hot, and the pressure is real.

They unpack the difference between self-reflection and self-regulation, why valuing people matters most in tense moments, and how faith, humility, and practical tools help leaders stay grounded. Eric shares a candid story about a public moment that required accountability and apology, and Tommie reflects on a powerful example of emotional self-control (and the lack of it) in a shared space.

This is a real-time conversation about leadership that’s not performative, not perfect, and deeply human.

In this episode:

• Self-regulation vs. self-reflection (and why timing matters)
• The hidden weight leaders carry into everyday interactions
• Faith as a moment-by-moment anchor (even when you’re not at your best)
• Practical tools: therapy, journaling, sounding boards, and emotional honesty
• Business leadership during uncertainty: networks, relationships, and listening for pain points
• “It’s not a sales pitch, it’s a relationship.”

Eric Ellis is a DEI strategist and CEO of Integrity Development Corporation.
Website: www.integritydev.com

Tommie Lewis is President & CEO of Make It Plain Consulting.
Website: mipcllc.com

Leadership, Self-Regulation, Emotional Intelligence, Courageous Conversations, Faith and Leadership, Workplace Culture, Integrity, Conflict Resolution, Coaching, Personal Development, Business Leadership, Communication Skills, Diversity Conversations

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