In this episode of the Saying Yes Again podcast, hosts Dr. Lisa Herbert and Tony welcome April Nowlin, a certified relationship coach, speaker, and author. The conversation delves into April's personal journey through heartbreak and divorce, which ultimately led her to help others navigate their own relationship challenges.

You can connect with April here and on all social media ‪@aprilnowlin

This conversation explores the journey of finding love after 40, emphasizing that it's never too late to seek meaningful relationships. Dr. Lisa and Tony discuss the mindset shifts necessary for those over 40, the historical context of relationships, and the advantages of maturity in dating. Key themes include emotional availability, the importance of knowing oneself, and the transition from chasing to choosing relationships. The discussion encourages listeners to embrace their experiences and wisdom as they navigate the dating landscape.

Chapters

00:00 Embracing Love After 40
03:29 Historical Perspectives on Relationships
06:39 The Sweet Spot of Maturity
09:28 Choosing Relationships Over Chasing
12:43 Emotional Availability and Self-Discovery
19:04 Saying Yes Again Ending Youtube Video.mp4

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In this episode, Dr. Lisa and Tony reflect on the journey of the podcast throughout 2025, expressing gratitude for the growth and community engagement. The conversation explores key themes such as healing from emotional baggage, defining non-negotiables in relationships, and the importance of flexibility in love. They celebrate the impact of their podcast on listeners and emphasize the need to spread hope and redefine love as they look forward to 2026, with aspirations for deeper conversations and guest appearances.

In this conversation, Dr. Lisa Herbert and Tony discuss the myth that women must choose between a successful career and a fulfilling love life. They explore societal expectations, the double standards faced by women, and the real conflict of energy and availability in relationships. The discussion highlights the importance of making intentional choices, cultivating emotional maturity, and forming supportive partnerships in achieving both career success and love. The episode encourages women to pursue their ambitions without guilt and emphasizes the importance of open communication in relationships.

In this episode of 'Saying Yes Again,' Dr. Lisa and Tony explore the challenges faced by strong women in love and relationships. They discuss the concept of the 'soft life' as a counter to hustle culture, emphasizing the importance of emotional ease, vulnerability, and choosing peace. The conversation delves into practical steps for embracing a softer life, the significance of connection in modern dating, and the upcoming event aimed at fostering meaningful relationships among singles over 40.

Takeaways

• Strong women often feel the burden of carrying everything in relationships.
• The 'soft life' represents a shift from hustle culture to emotional ease.
• Choosing peace in relationships is a powerful decision.
• Peace in love means mutual effort and feeling safe.
• Conflict resolution is essential for healthy relationships.
• Women are allowed to rest and receive support from partners.
• Softness in women makes them more approachable, not less powerful.
• Emotional maturity and boundaries are crucial for a soft life.
• Real connections are built through intentional conversations.
• Dating should focus on emotional honesty and stability.

In this episode of Saying Yes Again, we explore the challenges high-achieving women face in the dating world, discussing loneliness, emotional safety, and the invisible load they carry. We delve deep into the identity conflicts that arise when transitioning from professional success to personal relationships, emphasizing the need for vulnerability and communication. Also, highlighting the importance of building supportive partnerships that allow women to thrive without compromising their accomplishments.

Chapters

00:00 Navigating Success and Loneliness
03:20 The Choice of Solitude
06:19 Men's Perspectives on High Achieving Women
08:57 The Invisible Load of Professional Women
11:59 Identity Conflict in Relationships
14:37 Thriving in Love Without Shrinking
20:09 Building Safe and Supportive Relationships
26:00 Creating a Community for Love

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In episode 18 of "Saying Yes Again," Dr. Lisa and Tony record their first uncut, unscripted conversation about dating and relationships in midlife. They discuss the challenges of a small dating pool for women, ways people meet potential partners, and the importance of honesty about intentions. Sharing their own journey from divorce to love, they emphasize the importance of healing, growth, and staying open to second chances.

The episode also encouraging listeners to embrace new opportunities for connection and reminding everyone that it's never too late to say yes again.

Timestamps by PodSqueezeIntroduction and Episode Format (00:00:01)
Hosts introduce themselves, the podcast, and announce this will be an uncut, raw episode.

Episode Milestone and Uncut Decision (00:00:42)
Celebrating the 18th episode and discussing the decision to record an uncut, spontaneous session.

Topics Overview (00:02:35)
Preview of main topics: dating pool for women, reasons people avoid relationships in midlife, and why most don't remarry.

The Midlife Dating Pool (00:03:28)
Discussion about the challenges women face in the midlife dating pool and why it feels small and difficult.

Ways People Meet Partners (00:04:29)
Exploring traditional and modern ways people meet: friends, events, weddings, professional functions, clubs, and online dating.

Online Dating Experiences (00:07:14)
Personal stories about online dating, including how the hosts met and advice for not giving up on dating apps.

Commitment and Biological Clocks (00:08:22)
How age, life stage, and biological factors influence relationship decisions for men and women in midlife.

Commitment Hesitancy in Midlife (00:09:34)
Why some men in midlife are hesitant to commit, and how personal experiences and age impact their choices.

Honesty and Transparency in Dating (00:10:54)
Importance of being upfront about intentions in relationships to avoid leading others on.

Personal Growth and Readiness (00:13:29)
How healing and personal growth after divorce affect openness to new relationships and marriage.

Why Most Don't Remarry (00:14:10)
Exploring reasons people avoid a second marriage, including fear of repeating past pain and emotional bruises.

Life Partner vs. Marriage (00:16:20)
Discussion about preferring a life partner over marriage and how openness can evolve.

Advice for Men: Earning Commitment (00:17:58)
Advice for men to be consistent and show quality to move from "life partner" to "I do."

Personal Transformation and Hope (00:18:36)
How personal transformation after divorce led to a happier, more fulfilling relationship.

Are People Really Looking for Love in Midlife? (00:21:40)
Hosts discuss whether people in midlife are truly seeking love and the importance of openness and healing.

Encouragement to Try Online Dating (00:22:00)
Tony shares how encouragement from a friend led him to try online dating, resulting in meeting Lisa.

In this episode of "Saying Yes Again," Dr. Lisa and Tony, a midlife couple who found love after divorce, share five practical tips for dating on a budget during tough economic times. They discuss enjoying nature, cooking together at home, attending free or low-cost events, hosting game nights, and planning dream dates for the future. The episode is filled with personal stories, humor, and creative ideas for affordable, meaningful connections.

The hosts also announce an upcoming speed dating event for mature singles in Conyers, Georgia. Go to www.sayingyesagain.com for more information.

Introduction & Economic Downturn Context (00:00:00)
Discussing dating challenges during economic downturns and the need for affordable, creative date ideas.

Podcast Welcome & Hosts Introduction (00:00:36)
Introduction to the podcast, hosts Lisa and Tony, and the theme of second chances in love.

Episode Overview & Upcoming Event Teaser (00:01:32)
Overview of the episode's focus on budget-friendly dating and mention of an upcoming speed dating event.

Tip 1: Enjoying Nature Together (00:02:27)
Exploring affordable outdoor dates like walks, picnics, and hikes to connect and bond.

Tip 2: Cooking Together at Home (00:04:39)
Cooking as a couple, trying new recipes, and using meal kits for fun, intimate, and budget-friendly date nights.

Tip 3: Free Events & Local Outings (00:07:07)
Attending free or low-cost events, museums, parks, and exploring local spots for unique date experiences.

Tip 4: Game Night (00:11:00)
Hosting game nights with cards, board games, or trivia for fun is an inexpensive way to have quality time.

Tip 5: Planning Dream Future Dates (00:13:05)
Creating vision boards and discussing future plans or dream vacations to foster connection and shared goals.

Recap & Community Engagement (00:15:16)
Encouraging listeners to share their own budget-friendly date ideas and participate in the community.

Restaurant Recommendation & Beltline Outing (00:15:38)
Recommending "Two Urban Licks" restaurant and discussing enjoyable outings along the Beltline.

Closing Thoughts & Speed Dating Event Details (00:16:15)
Emphasizing that love doesn't have to be expensive and providing details about the upcoming speed dating event.

Farewell & Social Media Plugs (00:19:06)
Thanking listeners, encouraging subscriptions, sharing, and inviting them to follow on social media and attend the event.