SEO vs GEO vs AEO: How to Rank in Google AND ChatGPT (AI Search Optimization Explained)
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Traditional websites are on their way out. In this episode of the Next Build Podcast, Mason sits down with Elias Curtis, founder of Transform Design, to break down how 17 years in web design, branding, and lead generation led him to build AI-powered business systems that actually convert.
Elias unpacks why "just getting more traffic" is the wrong goal, how to turn your website into your best 24/7 salesperson, and why brand messaging in the first 5 seconds can make or break a lead. He also goes deep on SEO vs. GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) vs. AEO (Answer Engine Optimization), programmatic and semantic SEO at scale, and how AI has cut his build times from weeks to days — without cutting the value he delivers to clients.
If you're a business owner, agency owner, or marketer trying to figure out where AI fits into your website, branding, and lead gen strategy, this episode is packed with real, practical insight.
What we cover:
- How websites and design have evolved over 17 years
- Why "more traffic" isn't the goal
- Why you need a solid foundation before paid ads
- Websites as an asset, not an expense
- Are traditional websites going away?
- How to choose the right AI stack for your business
- SEO vs. GEO vs. AEO explained
- The biggest mistakes business owners make with AI
- What SEO, branding & AI will look like in 5 years
- How to audit your website and know if it's working
This episode is brought to you by Zaptime, AI time-tracking software that automatically tracks where your hours go, names your single biggest time sink, and turns billable hours into invoices in one click. Built for professionals billing $200+/hour who want to reclaim time and bill for what they're actually worth.
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Connect with Elias Curtis: 🌐 Transform Design: https://transformdesign.com
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