Location: Farm in Chimacum WA, part of the Jefferson Land Trust

Record date: 4/26/2026

Release date: 9/15/2026

Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa

Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/

Episode Description:

From a farm in Washington State within the Jefferson Land Trust, Natasha Morisawa and Amber Martin discuss bees as a metaphor for managing living with uncertainty and changing times. They ponder questions:

• Like a beeline back to the hive, what can we return to when fear and confusion show up?
• How can identifying values help us bring meaning to our lives?
• What can you take with you into the unknown?
• How can thinking and actively living collectively play a role in living in modernity?
• What is mutualism and how might it be helpful?

Keywords:

Collectivism

Bees

Mutualism

Values

Meaning making

Purpose

Modernity

Nature as Metaphor

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Episode Resources Links:

https://www.thegoodproject.org/value-sort

Jefferson Land Trust

The Port Gamble S’Klallams

https://jamestowntribe.org/

https://www.chroniclebooks.com/products/the-live-your-values-deck

https://www.disneyplus.com/explore/articles/secrets-of-the-bees-national-geographic

https://drjennyshields.com/values-card-sort/