We’re kicking off 2026 with our most personal episode yet.

This conversation wasn’t planned. We sat down intending to talk about what comes next for the show, and instead found ourselves in a deeper discussion about work, burnout, ambition, and what it means to live in a moment where AI is rapidly reshaping labor, identity, and trust.

In this episode:

• Why “work is sacred” feels harder to believe and harder to let go of
• Burnout, hustle culture, and the cognitive dissonance of automation
• Labor zero, post-labor economics, and the fear beneath productivity
• Status, money, degrees, and inherited stories about worth
• Rest as resistance and nervous system regulation
• AI, trust erosion, and the danger of slow confusion
• Dopamine, addiction, and withdrawal at a societal scale
• Why connection may be the real antidote

Sources:

• David Shapiro's Substack on Labor Zero: https://daveshap.substack.com/p/im-starting-a-movement
• He, She, and It by Marge Piercy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He,_She_and_It
• Ethan Mollick's Substack on the temptation of The Button: https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/setting-time-on-fire-and-the-temptation
• Rest Is Resistance by Tricia Hersey: https://blackgarnetbooks.com/item/oR7uwsLR1Xu2xerrvdfsqA
• The Last Invention (AI Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-last-invention/id1839942885

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