In this episode of Redeemed Through His Blood, Scott and Deb talk honestly about seasons when life doesn’t feel wrong—it just feels unorganized. Moving beyond last week’s conversation about spiritual drift, they explore what happens when change is sudden, clarity is absent, and control slips away. Drawing on the Creation story, lived experience, and the Savior’s invitation to “look unto me in every thought,” they reflect on how God works with chaos rather than discarding it—and how Jesus doesn’t wait for things to make sense before He comes close. This is a conversation for anyone sitting in uncertainty, learning to trust that disorder is not disqualification, and discovering that peace can exist even before resolution does.

You don’t need to feel more to be faithful. You don’t need constant confirmation to be close to Christ. And silence does not mean distance.

This week, instead of measuring your discipleship by emotion or progress, notice where your attention is going—and gently bring it back to Jesus Christ. Because what we look at grows. And when we look to Him, even quietly, grace begins to reframe how we experience the weight of mortality.

You’re not failing. You’re not behind. And you’re not alone.

00:00 — Deb opens: Attention, weariness, and inward drift

Deb introduces the idea that when life feels heavy or quiet, our attention naturally turns inward—not because we’re failing, but because we’re human.

02:45 — The Fall and spiritual self-monitoring

Scott introduces the idea that one of the quieter effects of the Fall is constant self-evaluation rather than rebellion.

05:30 — “Why don’t I feel the Spirit?”

Examples of how self-monitoring shows up in prayer, sacrament meeting, scripture study, and comparison.

09:40 — Weariness is not abandonment

A clear return to last week’s message: silence and heaviness are not signs of distance from Christ.

12:20 — Symptoms vs relationship

Scott contrasts symptom-focused spirituality with relationship-centered discipleship.

15:10 — Gethsemane: strength instead of relief

A reframing of Gethsemane—Jesus’ burden was not removed, but strength was added.

18:45 — “Am I willing to stay?”

Deb speaks to quiet faith, showing up without emotional confirmation, and the courage of staying.

22:10 — Gratitude: what it is not

Scott clearly defines what gratitude is not: forced optimism, minimizing pain, or spiritual cheerleading.

25:00 — Gratitude as alignment

Gratitude reframed as noticing presence rather than pretending relief.

27:30 — Practical reframing in real life

Examples of gratitude that sound like: “It didn’t spiral today.” “I made it through.” “I felt held, even quietly.”

30:30 — What we look at grows

The core thesis repeated and grounded: attention shapes experience.

33:00 — Closing invitation

A gentle invitation to stop measuring discipleship by emotion and to notice where Christ already is.

What do you do when you believe in Jesus Christ—but don’t feel close to Him? When the doctrine still makes sense, the invitations are familiar, and yet your heart feels heavy or stalled? In this episode, Scott and Deb talk candidly about faithful discouragement, emotional distance, and the quiet struggle of trying to “receive Christ” when it doesn’t feel easy or inspiring. Drawing from Alma 7, the Savior’s experience in Gethsemane, insights on grace from Adam Miller, and Elder Jeffrey R. Holland’s reassurance that we are never too far gone, this conversation reframes grace as Christ staying with us before He changes us. If you’ve ever wondered whether your weariness disqualifies you—or if Christ still comes close in the quiet—this episode is for you.