Our beloved friend Susannah B. Lewis (aka Whoa Susannah) is back, and this conversation takes us straight into both the deep AND shallow end, which of course is our favorite place to be.

We start with the important things: what Susannah's theme song would be (hello, Michael Jackson), the easiest plants to keep alive, and her ever-growing love of gardening. But that conversation leads us somewhere much deeper.

Susannah shares what she's been noticing in the wildflower fields and the vision God is growing in her heart for ministry there. We talk about Jesus' words in Luke 12 to "consider the wildflowers," what it actually means to consider something, and why so many of us may need to retrain our brains to slow down long enough to notice what God is doing around us.

And because gardening will preach, we talk about seasons, pruning, and the reminder that sometimes cutting something back isn't cruel but necessary for future growth.

Susannah also takes us behind the scenes of her writing life, including what she's learning through the self-publishing process and her newest book, Our Happy Valley Home, with its Christian Southern Gothic flavor.

We wrap up with four biblical principles Dr. Dub believes every leader should live by, along with plenty of rabbit trails, laughter, and friendship along the way.

Whether you're in a season of planting, pruning, waiting, or simply trying to notice what God is doing right in front of you, this conversation offers a gentle invitation to slow down, pay attention, and trust the work He is doing in your life.

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Okay, but HOW did we get from Noah's Ark to a heart check?! 😂

This week we're rambling through the headlines and stories we can't stop talking about, from possible Noah's Ark discoveries and McDonald's drama to Amazon Pharmacy, Slim Goodbody, and the realization that our very friendly "guard dogs" would probably welcome an intruder right into the house.

Obviously, we have thoughts.

But somewhere along the way, the conversation takes a turn toward Psalm 139 and the prayer, "Search me, God, and know my heart."

We're talking about humility, the things we may not see in ourselves, and what it looks like to invite God to reveal the places in our hearts that need His truth.

If you need a good laugh, a few ridiculous rabbit trails, and a reminder to let God do a little heart work, this episode is for you.

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"The pantsuit is tea"… and apparently, that's a compliment! Angela's return to her alma mater comes with a vocabulary lesson, and we're still explaining what it means to "Pull an Angela." Add Taco Bell, Fran's NYC week, and Atlanta Braves baseball, and we've got plenty to ramble about.

The conversation takes a deeper turn with an Instagram account sharing FAKE Bible verses and why we need to check what we read against Scripture. We also discuss Phillip Anthony Mitchell's ACCESS event, his Street Preachers podcast, and his upcoming book.

"Contending is not just being loud, but also being faithful." We're carrying that thought into our new memory passage, Colossians 3:12–13, as we consider compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, patience, and forgiveness.

Join us for #234 Apparently, That's a Compliment, because there's room for laughter and a heart check in the same conversation!

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This week, we're sharing our fall break adventures and tackling three of your biggest NYC questions: Where should you stay? What should you eat? And how do you get around?

We're also serving up our First Watch review with Mrs. Chris and that million-dollar bacon before rambling into My Dear Hemlock, Wordle, and our October memory verse, Colossians 3:12. What does it look like to clothe ourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience in everyday life?

Come for the travel tips and bacon talk. Stay for the laughter and encouragement to love people well. Join us for this week's episode "First Watch and Fall Break!"

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We're taking a little trip back to the '90s reminiscing about the glory days we may remember just a little more fondly than they actually happened. We're also talking all things Dolly Parton, farm animals, and the Calamity Club. You'll just have to listen. 😂

But then the conversation takes a more personal turn as we share an update on Atlas and thankfully some very good news. We talk about how Psalm 139 became an anchor in the middle of uncertainty and what it means to trust the God who knows us completely, goes before us, and places His hand of blessing upon our heads.

We reflect on the comfort of Scripture when circumstances feel frightening, the difference between simply surviving and living the abundant life God has given us, and why we were never meant to walk through the hard things alone.

As always, we hope that with each episode you'll find us talking about Jesus in the middle of our everyday lives while being challenged, growing together, and with plenty of laughter along the way. We are so thankful that Jesus meets us right there in the middle of it all.

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What does it actually mean to suffer well? In this episode, we're joined by a special guest, Dr. Beth Madison, for an honest conversation about suffering and the kind of faith that is formed when God doesn't immediately change our circumstances.

We often think suffering well means being strong, holding it together, or somehow finding the right attitude in the middle of something incredibly hard. But maybe suffering well has much less to do with our strength and much more to do with learning to depend on His.

Beth shares how suffering hasn't simply tested her faith but has transformed it. Through weakness, limitations, tears, and seasons she never would have chosen, she has learned the truth of 2 Corinthians 12:9 in a deeply personal way: His grace really is sufficient, and His power really is made perfect in weakness.

This is a conversation about discovering that God is good in the victories and in the valleys. Sometimes the most powerful testimony we have isn't that God took the hard thing away, but that we came to know Him differently because He met us there.

If you are walking through suffering, loving someone who is, or simply want a faith sturdy enough for the hard places of life, this conversation is for you.

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September Memory Verse: "Search me, God, and know my heart; test me and know my anxious thoughts. See if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." Psalms 139:23-24 NIV

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We're catching up on all the things this week including Fran's recovery, our time speaking at Jesus & Jammies, a few words we absolutely cannot stand, and a new Bible study Angela is loving.

Then we turn to Psalm 139 and a question that hits a little closer to home: If God already knows everything about us, why are we still tempted to hide?

We're talking about the important difference between conviction and condemnation, how to recognize the voice of shame, and why the Holy Spirit's conviction is always an invitation to repentance, freedom, and a closer relationship with God. Sometimes seeing what's really in our hearts is uncomfortable (and even embarrassing) but God doesn't reveal what needs to change so we'll run from Him. He invites us to bring it into the light.

Psalm 139 reminds us that we are already fully known. The question is whether we're willing to stop hiding and pray, "Search me, God, and know my heart."

Because when conviction makes us want to hide, we don't have to hide from Him. We can learn to hide in Him instead.

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What if the very thing you're ready to move past is the place where God is doing His deepest work?

This week, we're talking about what it looks like to sit in the deep things with the Lord, to slow down long enough to let Him search our hearts, reveal what's underneath the surface, and lead us instead of rushing ahead to the next thing.

Psalm 139 reminds us that God already knows us completely, so why do we still pray, "Search me, God, and know my heart"? Maybe the searching isn't for Him to discover something about us. Maybe it's for us to become willing to see what He already sees.

We talk about trials, perseverance, our desire for control, the discomfort of conviction, and the strange tension of waiting on God when we desperately want to know what comes next. Sometimes faithfulness looks less like figuring everything out and more like putting down the phone, quieting the noise, and giving the Lord room to speak.

And because we can never stay serious for too long, you'll also hear why Angela had the best day ever, how Fran is recovering from her procedure, meet Frannie the mischief-making turkey, hear a little about our marriage retreat, and find out what podcasts we're loving lately.

Our challenge this week: Don't rush the work God is doing in you. Be faithful in the little things. Stay long enough to listen. And trust that the God who searches your heart is also the God whose hand of blessing rests upon you.

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