Talking Proper, Episode 2: Putting Liberal Editing Theory into Practice, with Dr. Joel Heng Hartse

Host Cynthia Williams talks with Dr. Joel Heng Hartse, senior lecturer at Simon Fraser University, about what happens when an editor tries to preserve the voices of non‑native English–speaking authors of a scholarly book. Joel also shares how copy editors and journal editors can advocate for language variation and review texts with more intention.

Highlights

• 02:00 – Is there a movement to broaden what’s considered “acceptable English”?
• 05:04 – What scholarly journals are leading the charge to “pluralize” English?
• 39:25 – How can we expose ourselves to more variations of English?

About the podcast

The Talking Proper podcast is for editors who know the basics but crave nuance. Host Cynthia Williams discusses language, power, and inclusive editing, often with academics who study editing. Cynthia is a senior editor at Dragonfly Editorial, co-founded Black Editors Connect, and runs Outside-the-Book.com. Dragonfly Editorial is a B2B content agency that helps corporate, nonprofit, and government clients with writing, editing, and content strategy. The show is produced by Clock Tower Media, Ohio.

Links

Outside the Book - https://outside-the-book.com

Dragonfly Editorial - http://www.DragonflyEditorial.com

Clock Tower Media - https://www.clock-tower-media.com

Summary

In episode 2 of the Talking Proper podcast, Cynthia interviews Dr. Joel Heng Hartse of Simon Fraser University. They explore what happens when a copy editor tries to preserve the voices of non-native English–speaking authors of a scholarly book and how editors can make more intentional choices when engaging variations of English.