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Product for Product Management

Product for Product Management

Di: Matt Green & Moshe Mikanovsky
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 Product for Product is a show hosted by Matt Green and Moshe Mikanovsky aimed at helping listeners navigate the growing depth of product management tools while also providing our insights into the categories that make up the PM role. We will take listeners with us on a journey of discovery through areas of product analytics, road mapping, productivity and many others. If you want to keep up with the latest in product management come along for the ride!

Connect with us on LinkedIn:
https://linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct
https://linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky

Connect with us on Youtube:
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Episodi
  • EP 145 - AI Tools: N8N with Stav Charkham

    EP 145 - AI Tools: N8N with Stav Charkham
    Jan 7 2026
    We’re excited to welcome Stav Charkham, Business Product Builder at Voyantis, former Product Manager and founder in gaming and EdTech, and seasoned automation expert, for a standout episode on using n8n and agentic AI to empower product managers and teams.Stav takes us through his journey from building products with no-code tools like Bubble and iPaaS tools like Make, to his current work automating internal workflows with n8n at Voyantis. Learn how Stav helps teams go from research to business value in days, sometimes even hours, by combining open-source automation, hands-on user insight, and a bias for action.Join Matt, Moshe, and Stav as they explore:
    • What makes n8n different: open source, secure, and ready for power users, or anyone who wants to build without a developer

    • The basics of agentic AI: moving beyond IF/THEN logic, with “agents” that make real decisions using LLMs, memory, and a toolset

    • Practical use cases: how to save hours on manual work, analyze massive amounts of meeting data, and surface business opportunities using AI-powered automations

    • How Product Managers can independently build tools for their needs, deploying automations without writing code

    • n8n’s interface and workflow, and where technical skill might still required

    • Open source advantages and trade-offs: privacy, flexibility, cost, and the challenge of building and maintaining integrations

    • Why automation costs matter, and Stav’s real-world tips for measuring and optimizing LLM call expenses

    • Agentic vs. traditional workflows: when to use an AI agent, and when it’s not worth the extra cost or unpredictability

    • Cautionary tales and improvement wishes for n8n: integration gaps, edge cases, technical hurdles, and the ongoing quest for less technical UX

    • Kadabra, another tool Stav loves, combining automation frameworks with front-end flexibility

    • And much more!

    Want to connect with Stav or learn more?
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stav-charkham-1b6474176

    You can also connect with us and find more episodes:
    • Product for Product Podcast: http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast

    • Matt Green: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/

    • Moshe Mikanovsky: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky

    Note: Any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.

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    56 min
  • EP 144 - AI Tools: Lovable with Elena Levi

    EP 144 - AI Tools: Lovable with Elena Levi
    Dec 24 2025
    We’re excited to bring on Elena Levi, Director of Product Management at Payoneer, data analytics veteran, and passionate advocate for product-driven teams, for a special episode exploring what it’s really like to use Lovable and other AI-powered vibe coding tools in product development.

    Elena shares insights from 15 years in data analytics and product, with the journey from data analyst to product leadership fueling her curiosity about how AI can reshape prototyping, design, and collaboration. Drawing from hands-on experience building predictive analytics solutions, Elena reveals why she chose Lovable for fast prototyping, user testing, product sense interviews, and collaborating with both developers and designers.

    Join Matt, Moshe, and Elena as they explore:
    • The strengths and limitations of Lovable for prototyping: rapid iteration, easy sharing, changing flows on the fly, user testing, and developer handoff

    • When vibe coding works, and where you still need engineering and design expertise

    • The realities of code generation, versioning, Supabase integration, and why Lovable stood out from the competition at the time she chose it

    • Using Lovable for product sense interviews

    • Practical tips: breaking tasks into smaller prompts, saving tokens with up-front documents, and why the first prompt is the most important

    • The trade-offs of using AI tools for MVPs, B2B vs. B2C products, and where privacy and maintainability concerns come in

    • Responses from engineers and designers, what these tools mean for their work, learning curves, and whether they help or hinder junior team members

    • Expectations vs. reality: how close AI tools get you to the finish line, and why “the last mile” is the toughest

    • Conundrums, gotchas, frustrations, and how to keep flexibility in your workflow

    • Why do PMs must always ask “Why?”, and why AI alone can't replace a critical data mindset

    • And much more!

    Want to connect with Elena or learn more?
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-levi-data

    You can also connect with us and find more episodes:
    • Product for Product Podcast: http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast

    • Matt Green: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct

    • Moshe Mikanovsky: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky

    Note: Any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.

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    52 min
  • EP 143 - AI Tools: Using AI Securely with Eva Gao

    EP 143 - AI Tools: Using AI Securely with Eva Gao
    Dec 10 2025
    We’re thrilled to welcome back Eva Hongyan Gao, Head of Product ESG at AMCS Group, a returning guest (episode 102) and a product leader in B2B SaaS, circular economy, and ESG, for a special episode on using LLMs securely inside the enterprise. Eva joins Matt and Moshe to offer a candid, hands-on look at how AI fits into enterprise toolkits, the challenges of data compliance, and the realities of integrating tools like Microsoft Copilot Studio within strict security frameworks.

    Eva brings deep experience building for demanding enterprise customers, where success is measured not just by innovation, but by strict ISO, SOC 2, and GDPR compliance. She shares what happens behind the scenes as product leaders and IT teams try to balance innovation, cost, and data protection, sometimes losing sleep over responsible tool usage and ever-climbing AI integration costs.

    Join Matt, Moshe, and Eva as they explore:
    • Using AI tools in highly regulated, security-conscious B2B enterprise settings

    • The compliance process: from ISO and SOC2 to GDPR and internal AI guidelines

    • Why Microsoft Copilot is becoming the default LLM in enterprises, and what you still need to watch out for

    • Building internal agents and chat interfaces to answer roadmap questions and handle stakeholder requests

    • Lessons learned moving from over-engineered platforms to simpler, compliant AI tools

    • Creative AI workflows, including removing branded assets between Copilot and Figma and orchestrating information for various departments

    • The ongoing struggle: data redaction, internal transparency, and the limits of controlling generative models

    • LLM orchestration: mixing old-school logic with new AI capabilities, and knowing when not to use AI

    • Security best practices and the importance of a trust-based compliance mindset across the organization

    • What happens when stakeholders use AI tools in ways product never expected

    • Opportunities for Copilot and DevOps to streamline maintenance, documentation, and stakeholder requests

    • The future of AI in sustainability, product management, and business decision-making

    • And much more!

    Want to connect with Eva or learn more?
    • LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/evagaode

    You can also connect with us and find more episodes:
    • Product for Product Podcast: http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
    • Matt Green: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct
    • Moshe Mikanovsky: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky

    Note: Any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.

    Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
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    53 min
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