Zoologist/producer/composer/podcaster Laura Sams (@lauramsams) Jordan joins Jesse, Matt and Andy to talk about fliming grizzly bears in Alaska, studying hyenas in Africa, Laura's kid-friendly wildlife podcast The Happiest Animal Show, starting a production company with your sibling, interviewing six-year-olds, Laura's inflatable basking shark, the shocking actual appearance of basking sharks, the Horniman walrus, they're all in my Wildlife Treasury, a duck in a jersey and inserting a human language gene into mice.

Comedian Diana Hong (@dhongcomedy) joins Jesse, Andy and Matt to discuss cat ownership, Shadow Force, Sawbones and the McElroy-iverse, Diana's golf career, outsider commemorative art, a new way to get your lithium, battery types, alkali metals reacting with water, Lithium Valley, bottle recycling in the US, Sonny Bono's Palm Springs legacy, awful bronze statues, RIP Primm (maybe), an optimal robot body with 20 legs and Old Glory Robot Insurance.

Lawyer-turned-comedian and self-professed podcast slut Charles Star (@ugarles) returns to the show to talk about his podcast No Homework, celebrity roasts, Wings album covers, bad abbreviations, contact lenses that ease depression in mice, the insect with the biggest nuts, self-recognition in beluga whales and the link between sleep duration and accelerated aging.