How are democracies adapting to the new technology? In this episode, Nicolai Tangen talks with Alexander Stubb, President of Finland, about defence, diplomacy and the shifting world order. They discuss why Finland kept its defences strong long before joining NATO, how the war in Ukraine might end, what AI is doing to democracies, and why Stubb believes the Global South will shape what comes next. He also reflects on failure, resilience, and what a successful life actually looks like. Tune in for an insightful conversation!

In Good Company is hosted by Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management. New episodes every Wednesday, and don't miss our weekly wrap-up on Friday’s.

The production team for this episode includes Isabelle Karlsson and PLAN-B's Niklas Figenschau Johansen and Håkon Klemsdal. Background research was conducted by Une Solheim.

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