What happens when we stop treating fossil fuels, war and the climate emergency as separate crises? Kumi Naidoo speaks with Mitzi Jonelle Tan about the interests shaping energy systems, the communities resisting extraction, and the possibilities of a fair fossil fuel phase-out. They also explore what international civil society must change to work in genuine partnership with movements in the Global South.

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The world is changing, but the institutions built to drive development are struggling to keep up. In this episode of the Power, People and Planet Podcast, Kumi Naidoo speaks with Sir Suma Chakrabarti about what comes next, examining the limits of conventional development thinking and approaches, who gets to shape international solidarity, and how global institutions and younger generations might contribute to a different future.

They explore why the language of “development” may need to change, why Global South countries need a stronger voice in global decision-making, and whether institutions designed for the world of 1945 are still fit for purpose today.

At the heart of the conversation is a call for a different kind of solidarity: one based on dignity, agency and shared power.

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In this powerful episode of Power, People and Planet, Kumi Naidoo sits down with Syrian writer and cultural activist Reem Turkmani to explore how power operates beyond force — shaping minds, narratives, and imagination.

Reem reflects on growing up under authoritarian rule, where education, media, and even art were used to control thought and normalize injustice. Together, they unpack how climate stress exposed governance failures in Syria, how propaganda systems shape public consciousness, and why the real battleground is often cultural, not just political.

From the enduring phrase “the constitution was eaten by the donkey” to the role of storytelling in resistance, this conversation reveals how art can either reinforce silence or inspire action. Reem also shares the story of a 100-year-old Iraqi protest song — a powerful example of how culture can carry coded resistance, build solidarity, and offer healing in times of struggle.

This episode is a reminder that resistance is not only about confronting power — it is about reclaiming truth, memory, and imagination.

In this episode, we discuss:
✅Growing up in Syria under patriarchy and authoritarian control
✅Why the 2010–2011 uprising happened — beyond the “Arab Spring” narrative
✅How climate stress exposed governance failures and deepened grievances
✅The role of education, media, and culture in shaping public consciousness
✅How propaganda normalizes injustice — including the phrase “the constitution was eaten by the donkey”
✅The power of arts and culture in both reinforcing and resisting authoritarianism
✅Reem’s work with 1+1 Show, using media to build civic awareness across divided societies
✅The overlooked contributions of Arab and Muslim civilizations to modern science
✅A 100-year-old Iraqi protest song — and how art carries coded resistance, solidarity, and healing

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Chal Chal by The Famous Arabic Crossover Musician Ilham Al Madfai
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Follow Reem on Social Media - https://www.instagram.com/rimturkmani/

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