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Popp Talk, September 26, 2026

Popp Talk, September 26, 2026

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Popp Talk with Mary Jane Popp New Details on the 1947 Roswell Crash, Alien Bodies, and the Cover-Up with Tom Carey Mary Jane Popp welcomes veteran Roswell investigator Tom Carey back to the show to revisit the 1947 New Mexico crash, the alien bodies he says were recovered afterward, and decades of government secrecy that followed. A Familiar Guest Returns to Roswell Mary Jane Popp opens the show promising an incredible hour with a returning guest whose research on Roswell keeps turning up new evidence. She introduces Tom Carey, an Air Force veteran who once held a top-secret crypto clearance and has spent decades investigating the 1947 New Mexico crash, describing his books Witness to Roswell, The Children of Roswell, and Touched by Roswell, plus his work on Area 51 and his appearances with Oprah, 48 Hours, and Coast to Coast with George Noory. Carey explains he became involved in 1991, made his first trip to Roswell in 1993 thinking he had seen everything there was to see, and is still working the case decades later. He tells Popp that after years of searching for new witnesses, the proactive investigation is essentially finished because the last firsthand witnesses have died, though he and his team have gathered several hundred first- and second-hand accounts that, he says, give them the full story already. Major Marcel and the Wreckage at Home Popp and Carey recount the night Major Jesse Marcel, the base intelligence officer at Roswell Army Airfield, became the first military man to reach the crash site and stopped at home with a car full of strange wreckage before returning to base. Carey says Marcel's son, the late Jesse Marcel Jr., told him his father believed immediately that the debris was from a flying saucer, something that came to Earth but was not of it. Carey explains investigators believe the craft exploded midair during a thunderstorm, scattering hand-sized fragments across one site, while two alien occupants thrown from the blast died about two and a half miles away; a separate escape capsule carrying three more occupants flew on nearly thirty miles before crashing, where archaeologists found two dead and one still alive the next day, July 7th, bringing the total to five extraterrestrial biological entities. Popp recalls interviewing Jesse Marcel Jr. years earlier and confirms his account of his father being threatened into silence about what he had seen. Dan Dwyer Meets a Child of the Earth Carey shares what he calls one of the best-documented accounts of the bodies, from Roswell fireman Dan Dwyer, who ignored orders to stay away from the crash site thirty miles north of town. Dwyer reportedly found the egg-shaped capsule, about the size of a Volkswagen Beetle, along with two dead occupants, then noticed a third moving nearby, alive and walking around. Carey says Dwyer later told his family the creature communicated with him telepathically, in their heads, describing it as strikingly frail with an oversized pear-shaped head, slanted eyes, no ears or nose, and a mouth that led nowhere inside. Asked what it looked like, Dwyer reportedly called it a child of the earth, a phrase locals recognized as describing the pink, oval-headed Jerusalem cricket. Carey says the creature reassured Dwyer not to worry, that its comrades were dead and it accepted its fate, before military personnel arrived, took custody, and threatened Dwyer and his family into silence, much as they had threatened Sheriff George Wilcox and others who reached the site. Weather Balloons, Threats, and a Rancher's Silence Popp and Carey trace how the story became public and then officially vanished. Base commander Colonel William Blanchard had public information officer Walter Haut announce that the Air Force had recovered a flying saucer, a statement that raced around the world on the wire services amid a nationwide wave of flying-saucer sightings that summer. Carey says a Roswell bookstore owner told him the news spread across town in twenty minutes. Within a day, the story was reversed and the wreckage was reclassified as a weather balloon. Carey explains that rancher Mack Brazel, who first reported the debris, was held for about a week and pressured until he agreed to say it was only a balloon. Carey argues the reversal looks like a local blunder by Blanchard rather than a plan orchestrated from Washington, since announcing a saucer first would be an odd way to begin a cover-up. The story then went quiet for roughly thirty years until Marcel, dying of emphysema, finally spoke to civilian investigator Stanton Friedman. Ninety Officers and a Hangar at Wright-Patterson Carey describes what became of the wreckage and the surviving creature: most debris went to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, some to Los Alamos and Lockheed, while the four dead bodies were sent on ahead. He says the living being was kept at Roswell for months before turning up, in the spring of 1948, behind a two-way mirror shown to about ...
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