The Phillies made it official on Tuesday, relieving Rob Thomson of his duties after their 9-19 start. Despite leading the team to four consecutive playoff berths and coming off of back-to-back 95-plus-win seasons, the Phillies deemed Thomson to be the latest problem in need of fixing as they search for ways to climb out of their deep-and-growing April hole.

Don Mattingly takes over on a firmly interim basis, with Dusty Wathan moving to fill the bench coach role and Triple-A manager Anthony Contreras moving up to take over as MLB third base coach. Chris Adamson will manage the IronPigs.

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Is Judgement Day approaching for the 2026 Phillies before the calendar even flips to May? Patience is running thin, both inside and from outside the club, and it's fair to wonder what move(s) can be made to start turning things around. Paul and Matt process the bafflement in real-time, and take stock of the team at their latest disappointing checkpoint.

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The Phillies have lost 9 straight and 13 of their last 15. I do not have a quippy title for this one!

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