What happens when success no longer satisfies you?

In this powerful episode of Permission to Flourish, Jai Cornell sits down with keynote speaker, author, and leadership strategist Debbie Simmons — known as The Legacy Architect — to explore the shift from chasing outcomes to building legacy.

Debbie shares two deeply personal turning points that shaped her leadership: the loss of her quadruplet sons early in marriage and a life-threatening health crisis years later that forced her to redefine strength, sustainability, and stewardship.

Together they discuss:

• The difference between success and significance
• Why “why me?” keeps us stuck — and what to ask instead
• How surrender and humility elevate leadership
• The cost of rising to the next level
• Why sometimes the hardest decisions are between better and best
• What it truly means to give yourself permission to flourish

If you’ve ever felt the quiet whisper that there is more — more impact, more depth, more legacy — this episode is for you.

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🌐 thedebbiesimmons.com
📘 Free Book: theheartoflegacy.com

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What if being stuck isn’t a lack of discipline — but a nervous system trying to keep you safe?

In this powerful episode of Permission to Flourish, Jai Cornell sits down with her good friend and coach, Chad Carpenter, founder of Quantum Breath, to explore how trauma, conditioning, and nervous system patterns shape our lives — and how breathwork can help us break free.

Chad shares his journey from growing up in a performance-based construction environment in South Florida, battling isolation and substance coping, to experiencing three ACL surgeries at a young age — a turning point that led him to yoga, meditation, and eventually somatic breathwork.

Together they discuss:

• Why people pleasing keeps us stuck• How nervous system safety controls our decisions• The shame cycle of “woulda, coulda, shoulda”• Why success must be redefined• What it really means to give yourself permission to flourish

This conversation is raw, grounded, and deeply healing.

Connect with Chad:🌐 QuantumBreath.co📱 Instagram: @chadbcarpenter

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Aloha and welcome to the very first episode of Permission to Flourish.

In this raw, unscripted conversation, host Jai Cornell sits down with her longtime business partner and friend, Mutita Panmook, founder of Get Unstuck Method, to talk about what it really means to put life first and business second.

Mutita shares the powerful story of a life-changing car accident that forced her to question everything she’d built, rebuild her business around her health and family, and redesign her operations so her small team could truly own the work. Together, Jai and Mutita unpack what flourishing looks like in real life: honest communication, setting boundaries, trusting your team, and letting go of the need to do it all yourself.

If you’ve ever felt like a workaholic, the bottleneck in your own business, or the one who “has to hold everything together,” this episode will feel like a deep breath and a loving wake-up call.

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