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the podcast for entrepreneurs and business owners ready to face the raw truth of what it takes to succeed. Host Shawn Austin Johnson goes beyond polished success stories to explore the real, often messy, and challenging aspects of business ownership.

This podcast is for those who feel isolated in their entrepreneurial journey, battle imposter syndrome, or face burnout. Shawn offers candid insights and isn't afraid to tackle tough conversations on what truly matters in business.

Expect in-depth discussions, spicy takes, and interviews with guests who aren't afraid to confront the hard questions. Tune in weekly for an unfiltered look at entrepreneurship. It's not always pretty, but it's always real. Buckle up!

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  • S1: E1 From Startup to 7-Figure Exit: Scaling A Property Management Empire

    S1: E1 From Startup to 7-Figure Exit: Scaling A Property Management Empire
    Jul 11 2024

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    Launching New Beginnings: A Dive into Business Ventures

    This podcast episode marks the launch of a new series where the hosts (Tony Cline & Shawn Austin Johnson), two small business veterans, discuss their personal journeys, initial meetings, and shared experiences in the field, including starting and scaling property management firms, innovating within the industry, and navigating mergers and acquisitions. They reflect on the challenges and rewards of entrepreneurship, the intricacies of building and leading teams, dealing with regulations, and the impact of government interference in the property management sector. Additionally, they explore their post-property management ventures, such as consulting and real estate investing, underscoring the lessons learned and the value of innovation, mentorship, and the human element in business decisions.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Launching the Podcast: A Trip Down Memory Lane
    00:17 First Encounters and Initial Impressions
    02:29 The Evolution of a Friendship and Professional Relationship
    03:14 The Genesis of the Podcast: Motivations and Aspirations
    03:35 From Property Management to Real Estate Investing: A Personal Journey
    05:57 The Helicopter Pilot Turned Entrepreneur
    07:55 Scaling a Property Management Business: Challenges and Triumphs
    09:24 The Birth of Homevault: A Mastermind's Vision
    19:14 Rebranding and Expanding: The Story of HomeVault
    21:53 Looking Ahead: Current Projects and Future Plans
    22:08 Journey from Property Management to Consulting
    22:26 The Art of Coaching in Property Management
    24:26 Clientele and Challenges in Property Management Consulting
    28:19 Exploring E-commerce and Financial Trust Accounting
    30:04 Real Estate Investment Strategies and Ventures
    33:39 Reflecting on Property Management Experiences
    42:22 Concluding Thoughts and Future Topics

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    44 min
  • S1: E2 Navigating the Culture Clash: Mergers, Acquisitions, and the Pain of Integration

    S1: E2 Navigating the Culture Clash: Mergers, Acquisitions, and the Pain of Integration
    Jul 22 2024

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    Navigating the Complex World of Property Management

    In this episode of 'Pay or Quit', hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into crucial aspects of property management, emphasizing the importance of proper timing when implementing value-associated fees and the pitfalls of fee maxing in the property management industry. They explore how bad timing can leave landlords with negative experiences, leading them to either sell their investments or manage properties themselves. The discussion also covers why real estate agents attempting property management and landlords who don't treat their investments seriously make the worst property managers. Furthermore, the hosts share their insights into recent books they've read, highlighting themes like organizational growth, personal development, and strategic innovation in business. They tease future topics, including the intricacies of a specific trademark, multifaceted benefits of real estate investment, and setting effective company goals.

    00:00 The Importance of Timing in Value-Associated Fees

    00:21 Introducing 'Pay or Quit': The Property Management Podcast

    00:45 Diving Into Today's Hot Topics in Property Management

    01:44 The Personal Side: Running Ultra-Marathons and Building Value

    03:45 The Controversial World of Fee Maxing in Property Management

    04:23 Unpacking the Fee Maxing Strategy: A Deep Dive

    07:23 The Impact of Legislation on Property Management Practices

    11:40 A Personal Journey Through Fee Implementation and Its Effects

    17:25 Maximizing Value: A Strategy Beyond Fees

    18:24 Unpacking Value Maximization in Property Management

    18:47 The Pitfalls of Fee Maximization and Its Impact

    20:25 The Dream of Fluid Agreements in Property Management

    23:34 The Worst Property Managers: A Candid Discussion

    25:41 Expanding on the Worst Property Manager Traits

    30:04 Diving Into Recent Reads: Strategy, Focus, and Insight

    31:56 Personal Growth Through Literature: A Trail Runner's Perspective

    35:51 Teasing Future Topics and Wrapping Up

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    47 min
  • S1: E3 The Worst Property Manager, How Fee Maxing Ruined Property Management

    S1: E3 The Worst Property Manager, How Fee Maxing Ruined Property Management
    Jul 29 2024
    Send us Fan MailTo see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule hereIn this episode of the "Pay or Quit" podcast, hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the world of property management. The episode kicks off with a discussion on the critical importance of timing when introducing value-associated fees in property management, setting the stage for a broader conversation about industry practices.After warmly welcoming listeners and sharing their excitement for the episode, Tony and Shawn introduce the main topics: the impact of fee maxing on the property management industry, the worst kinds of property managers, and their recent book reads. They argue that fee maxing, or the practice of maximizing fees without adequately increasing value, has damaged the industry by pushing landlords and tenants away.The hosts propose a balanced approach of "value maxing," focusing on increasing the value delivered before raising fees. They share personal stories and business strategies, highlighting practices like tenant home tutorials that add value and justify higher fees.The episode also features a lively debate on who makes the worst property manager, with the "opportunistic real estate agent" taking the top spot. Additionally, both hosts share their top book recommendations, including titles that provide insights into business strategies, personal growth, and cultural analysis.The podcast wraps up with teasers for upcoming episodes, promising discussions on topics like triple ties in trademarks and the benefits of real estate investing.-------------------------------Blue Ocean Strategy by Chan Kim: https://a.co/d/5GGAus6 Free to Focus by Michael Hyatt: https://a.co/d/eo4sRh6Black Rednecks & White Liberals by Thomas Sowell: https://a.co/d/50CWXIaThe Dream Manager by Matthew Kelly: https://a.co/d/clJHsc6From Strength to Strength' by Arthur C. Brooks: https://a.co/d/dKLXf2RThe 6 Habits of Growth by Brendon Burchard: Please rate the podcast!The Wealth-Driven PM Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/the-wealth-driven-pmShawn's Newsletter: https://shawnaustinjohnson.beehiiv.com/Follow Shawn:X: https://x.com/shawnAJohnsonXWebsite: https://www.shawnaustinjohnson.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@shawnaustinjohnsonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnaustinjohnson/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnaustinjohnson
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    34 min
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