Sarah traveled to Tucson to sit in a casita with founder of River Writing and dear friend Nan Seymour. She also planted a secret microphone to record their conversation, which delighted Nan! The episode begins with a stunning read of the poem by Jacob Shores Arguello entitled The Names of Grasses which brings both women to tears. Follow these two lifelong poets into the catacombs of creativity where they discuss art which goes far beyond commodity and becomes a necessity. The depth of their friendship and years spent writing together ripple with a sweet ease.

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Music doesn't always go how you think it will, and that's a good thing. Mack shares bubbling enthusiasm about her experience working with Mentor and Muse on their immersive artist workshop. How did a song - that Phil originally hated - about vampires - become one of Mack's new hits?

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One of the original 5 artists to be hosted by Mentor & Muse, Sam Torres shares her experience coming into herself as an artist in recovery. This conversation with mentor, Thomas Robison touches on aspects of recreating identity, perfectionism, honesty, and performance. They talk about what it means to "complete the circuit" via symbiosis between artist and audience. Stay tuned until the end for a deep dive into mystical aspects of what it means to devote to the "one seat" of creative practice.

Click the link for the "Everything and Nothing" album to hear music by Sam, Thomas and the rest of the Mentor & Muse crew.

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