In a world increasingly obsessed with health and wellbeing, why do so many people still feel exhausted?

In this episode, Harry is joined by Oli Patrick – performance physiologist and creator of The Energy Equation – for a revealing conversation about energy, recovery, and why modern life is draining us.

With over 25 years working across elite sport, healthcare and executive health, Oli shares what he’s learned from seeing thousands of people who were told they were “healthy” on paper, yet felt far from well in real life.

Together, they explore how stress, sleep, recovery and purpose interact – and why effective and intentional recovery is one of the most critical areas of the energy equation.

Oli speaks openly about:

- Why wellbeing is booming while people feel worse

-The difference between lifespan and health span

- Why fatigue is a biological signal, not a failure

- How modern life keeps the body in a constant state of alert

- Getting the best from wearable tech

- The importance of recovery beyond sleep

This episode is about understanding what your body is responding to – and how to rebuild energy in a way that actually works.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing “all the right things” but still feel drained, this conversation is for you.

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