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Not So Washed Up

Not So Washed Up

Di: Isabel Deutsch & Mia Yabut
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Welcome to Not So Washed Up.

The podcast for former athletes, high performers, and anyone who’s carried the discipline, resilience, and competitive mindset of sports into life beyond the game — where former athletes are forced to redefine success once the scoreboard disappears.

Hosted by two former Division I athletes turned professionals and founders. We are navigating the chaos of ambition, wellness, relationships, career pressure, and personal growth — this show is about what happens when the game ends… but your drive doesn’t.

Every week, we sit down with elite performers — from every industry — to unpack the mindset, discipline, failures, and habits that actually translate from sports into real life.

Because the truth is:

Most people stop competing.

We just changed arenas.

This is Not So Washed Up.

2026 Isabel Deutsch & Mia Yabut
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  • THE Identity Crisis
    Sep 30 2026

    THE Identity Crisis

    TW: This episode discusses depression, disordered eating, and substance use in the context of retired athletes. Take care of yourself, and reach out for support if you need it.

    Izzy and Mia go back in time to unpack the identity crisis that hits almost every athlete after their sport ends: the withdrawal, the depression, the "who am I now" spiral nobody talks about. Mia brings the peer-reviewed data. This one gets personal, informative, and ends with our classic chaos. ENJOY.

    Chapters:

    00:23 — Intro

    02:16 — Types of Retirement + Rebuilding Your Identity After Sport

    03:28 — Izzy's COVID-Forced Retirement

    06:21 — The Science: What Forced Retirement Does to Athletes' Mental Health

    07:45 — Mia's Retirement Depression

    08:52 — Chasing the High: Dopamine + Epigenetics

    14:19 — Shoving It Down: Izzy's Retirement

    17:16 — The Stats: Depression Rates in Retired NFL, NBA & Soccer Players

    19:02 — Speaking To Young Mia, Young Izzy, and Anyone Else Facing Sports Retirement

    21:48 — Mia's 100-Routines-in-a-Row

    27:00 — FULL Tangent: Retinol + the Collagen Meta-Analysis Redux

    32:03 — Izzy Gaming the Baseline Test

    34:47 — Mia's Plantar Fasciitis

    37:30 — Reclaiming the Toxicity

    40:20 — Team Accountability

    Sources:

    Dopamine genetics & epigenetics

    • Humińska-Lisowska, K., et al. (2023). Epigenetic Analysis of the Dopamine Transporter Gene DAT1 with a Focus on Personality Traits in Athletes. Int J Mol Sci. DOI: 10.3390/ijms24108931
    • Michałowska-Sawczyn, M., et al. (2024). Association Analysis of the Dopaminergic Receptor 2 Gene Tag1B rs1079597 and Personality Traits Among a Cohort of Professional Athletes. Biol Sport. DOI: 10.5114/biolsport.2025.139470

    Dopamine & training intensity

    • Boecker, H., et al. (2024). Fractional Amplitude of Low-Frequency Fluctuations Associated with Endocannabinoid, µ-Opioid and Dopamine Receptor Distributions after High-Intensity Exercise Bouts. Front Neuroimaging. DOI: 10.3389/fnimg.2024.1332384

    Dopamine & burnout/stress

    • Cai, C., et al. (2025). From adversity to adaptation: the struggle between resilience and athlete burnout in stressful situations. Front Psychol. DOI: 10.3389/fpsyg.2025.1578198
    • Baik, J-H. (2020). Stress and the dopaminergic reward system. Exp Mol Med. DOI: 10.1038/s12276-020-00532-4

    Retirement & identity transition

    • Mannes, Z-L., et al. (2018). Prevalence and Correlates of Psychological Distress among Retired Elite Athletes: A Systematic Review. PMC.
    • Voorheis, P., et al. (2023). Adaptation to life after sport for retired athletes: A scoping review of existing reviews and programs. PLOS ONE. DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0291683

    Collagen

    • Myung, S-K., & Park, Y. (2025). Effects of Collagen Supplements on Skin Aging: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials. Am J Med. DOI: 10.1016/j.amjmed.2025.04.034
    • Smith, L., et al. (2026). Collagen Supplementation for Skin and Musculoskeletal Health: An Umbrella Review of Meta-Analyses on Elasticity, Hydration, and Structural Outcomes. Aesthet Surg J Open Forum. DOI: 10.1093/asjof/ojag018

    A note on the research: the genetics/epigenetics studies show correlation, not causation, and the training-intensity study isn't a controlled experiment. The collagen debate hinges on how Myung & Park grouped trials by industry funding, which GROW (Gelatin Manufacturers of the World) and Collagen Stewardship Alliance dispute. We're sharing what the data shows, not overstating it.

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    44 min
  • The Izzy Interview
    Sep 23 2026

    Episode 3: The Izzy Interview


    It's Izzy's 27th birthday, so we're flipping the format: Mia sits down to interrogate our fearless leader on her entire athletic journey. From an anxious 8-year-old hiding in a bathroom stall at tryouts to a D1 career at Hawaii cut short by COVID.. We cover everything she's carried from soccer into this phase of life… Some love from Patty (Izzy’s mom) included!


    Chapters:

    00:24 — Intro: Celebrating Izzy's 27th

    02:03 — Deutsch Family Sports Culture

    04:03 — The Bathroom-Hiding Tryout Story

    06:04 — Perfectionism and The Pressure to Be Good at Everything

    09:32 — Training Schedule Breakdown +Her Unicorn Club Team

    13:46 — Private Training and Izzy’s Forever Intensity

    18:20 — Recruitment & Choosing Hawaii

    20:26 — Breakout Junior Year & COVID

    22:00 — The Identity Crisis

    26:23 — Channeling Intensity Into Work

    29:24 — Why Harsh Feedback Still Works

    35:21 — Finding Passion in Entrepreneurship

    36:32 — Making Peace With the Journey



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    42 min
  • One night with Flo Rida (plus Sardines, PRPs, and Running)
    Sep 16 2026

    Episode 2: One night with Flo Rida (Plus Sardines, PRPs, and Running)

    Hold on, team, because this one is a bit of a wild ride. Join Izzy and Mia for their FIRST EVER in-person Head-to-Head..recapping a weekend of World Cup finals, a full sardine obsession arc, a Flo Rida–DJ Khaled fever dream, and one very Not So Washed Up wedding. P.S. Mia is starting a running journey. WATCH THIS SPACE.

    Chapters

    00:23 — Intro

    01:30 — Izzy's NYC Moving Saga

    03:32 — World Cup Fever

    04:37 — Weekend Recap Kicks Off

    05:34 — Sardines…

    12:52 — Izzy’s Saturday Night

    20:38 — The Great Sweat Debate

    22:46 —The Legendary "PRP"

    24:17 — Mia Thinks She’s A Matchmaker

    25:54 — YGT + LMNT + Tequila = Perfection

    27:17 — Mia’s New Running Era

    29:08 — Soccer vs. Gymnastics: Fast-Twitch vs. Endurance

    30:56 — Episode Recap

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    33 min
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