In what we can all agree is the greatest of all holiday traditions, filmmaker Charles Hood and The Wrap's Drew Taylor join me to celebrate / argue about our picks for the ten best films of 2025. Our shortest one yet!

My guest today is Wisconsin-born, LA-based singer/songwriter Hillary Reynolds, who is one of the rare guests to bring a live album to this podcast in the form of Fleetwood Mac's 1997 live record 'The Dance'. Having discovered the album as a child in the backseat of her parents' car, Hillary shares her thoughts on the record, including how the passage of time between when the songs were written and when they were performed at this live concert creates a different perspective on certain songs, how the appeal of Fleetwood Mac is largely informed by the story of the band members' interpersonal relationships, the way the band members' vocal tones are so versatile and greatly contrast with one another, how Fleetwood Mac's melodic style has heavily influenced Hillary's own songwriting, how her relationship to their music has evolved over time, and much more.

This week's guest is Swedish singer/songwriter Peter Morén, known for his work as guitarist and vocalist of indie rock trio Peter Bjorn and John and his solo project SunYears. Peter joins me to discuss the 1994 sophomore album by alternative Swedish artist Stina Nordenstam, 'And She Closed Her Eyes'. Peter and I chat about how this record represents a transitionary period for Nordenstam, how the album was recorded with drums but then stripped of them in the final mix, the elusive nature of Nordenstam as an artist and the ambiguity surrounding whether she will ever record another album, the artist's underground cult following which extends beyond her native Sweden, how the fragility and intimacy of the vocal recordings give the album a timeless feel, and much more.