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This episode breaks down why AI governance must evolve alongside agentic AI, drawing on the insights of Matthias Darblade. The conversation explores the EU AI Act, continuous compliance, and why the biggest business value often sits in high‑risk AI use cases. For organisations adopting agents, governance becomes a live system, not a one‑time checkbox, balancing innovation, responsibility, and trust at scale.

👉 Full Show Notes
https://www.microsoftinnovationpodcast.com/823

🎙️ What you’ll learn

• Why agentic AI turns governance into a continuous process
• How the EU AI Act affects organisations inside and outside Europe
• Where the real business value lies in high‑risk AI systems
• Why static compliance models fail for AI and agents
• How organisations can govern AI without slowing innovation

✅ Highlights

• “With this black box that needs to be governed and controlled.”
• “It gives you a certain sense of being safe regarding the regulators.”
• “It starts to become a lot, even for a company as big as Airbus.”
• “It’s definitely a live system.”
• “For AI, it will be a bit more complex.”
• “High risk is where most of the value lies for companies.”
• “You’re leaving a lot of money on the table.”
• “It needs to be running and monitoring in real time.”
• “You need to be respecting the law and proceed in a certain way.”

🧰 Mentioned

• ISO 24001: https://www.iso.org/standard/81230.html
• AI governance: https://www.oecd.org/ai/governance/
• Agentic AI: https://www.ibm.com/topics/agentic-ai
• Copilot: https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-copilot
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• Gemini: https://ai.google/gemini/

✅Keywords
ai governance, eu ai act, agentic ai, ai compliance, high risk ai, ai regulation, autonomous agents, responsible ai, continuous monitoring, enterprise ai, ai oversight, ai strategy

Microsoft 365 Copilot Adoption is a Microsoft Press book for leaders and consultants. It shows how to identify high-value use cases, set guardrails, enable champions, and measure impact, so Copilot sticks. Practical frameworks, checklists, and metrics you can use this month. Get the book: https://bit.ly/CopilotAdoption

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Cas de Morree and Mark Smith unpack why applied AI skills now matter more than prompts. They explore Copilot’s real strength inside work data, the rapid shift towards agents and outcome‑driven systems, and how low‑cost tooling is reshaping productivity. The conversation challenges привычные workflows, highlights why more output does not equal better work, and shows how professionals can rethink email, meetings, automation, and software building using AI that actually integrates into daily work.

👉 For full Show Notes
https://www.microsoftinnovationpodcast.com/822

🎙️ What you’ll learn

• How Copilot’s value changes when it is connected to your work data
• Why outcome engineering is replacing prompt engineering
• When AI automation increases noise instead of productivity
• How agents can replace SaaS tools and reduce recurring costs
• What applied AI skills look like for consultants and knowledge workers

✅ Highlights

• “They forgot about the entire plugged into your work data, and that’s what Copilot is good at.”
• “It was a rough start using Copilot.”
• “It will keep iterating on a task till it gets to the destination.”
• “I think this is the start of outcomes engineering rather than prompt engineering.”
• “We expect all this magic from these new tools.”
• “Why would you send out meeting notes to everyone?”
• “It’s insanity.”
• “I’ve taken over $2,000 of annual cost out of my business SaaS expenses.”
• “The only limitation is your own creativity at this point.”

🧰 Mentioned

• Microsoft Copilot: https://www.copilot.com/
• Microsoft 365: https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-365
• Microsoft Graph: https://learn.microsoft.com/graph/overview
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• Claude (by Anthropic): https://claude.com/
• Bitly: https://bitly.com/
• RAG systems (Retrieval‑Augmented Generation): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrieval-augmented_generation
• Microsoft MVP YouTube Series - How to Become a Microsoft MVP - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzf0yupPbVkqdRJDPVE4PtTlm6quDhiu7

✅ Keywords
ai productivity, microsoft copilot, applied ai skills, outcome engineering, ai agents, automation, microsoft 365, anthropic, claude, openai, knowledge work, business ai

Microsoft 365 Copilot Adoption is a Microsoft Press book for leaders and consultants. It shows how to identify high-value use cases, set guardrails, enable champions, and measure impact, so Copilot sticks. Practical frameworks, checklists, and metrics you can use this month. Get the book: https://bit.ly/CopilotAdoption

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This episode with Joris de Gruyter explores how advanced AI agents are reshaping individual productivity and technical work. The conversation covers coding agents, personal agent systems, automation beyond code, and the risks of burnout, privacy, and memory misuse. Real-world examples show how AI can turn notes into workflows, handle testing and reporting, and operate as a team of specialised agents. The key message is clear: applied AI skills now combine technical fluency with strong boundaries around focus, context, and trust.

👉️ Full Show Notes
https://www.microsoftinnovationpodcast.com/821

🎙️ What you’ll learn

• How coding agents are expanding into everyday knowledge work
• Practical ways to turn notes into repeatable automation
• When to use multiple AI agents and when to limit them
• How memory features can introduce risk and bias
• Why APIs matter for an AI-driven future of work

✅ Highlights

• “I realised that I had incredible power to create anything my mind can conceive digitally.”
• “Tokens have become my money.”
• “The productivity gains is causing this tremendous burnout for some reason.”
• “I’ve put the guardrails in place so they’re not allowed to talk to me after 9pm.”
• “It started with notes, and it’s turning into automation.”
• “The internet is a very hostile place to AI.”
• “Memory is the first thing I turn off everywhere.”
• “I don’t want anybody else’s code in my mix.”
• “It allows you to become almost like superhuman in a weird way.”

🧰 Mentioned

• AI Brain Fry: https://hbr.org/2026/03/when-using-ai-leads-to-brain-fry
• GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
• Work IQ: https://learn.microsoft.com/microsoft-365/copilot/extensibility/workiq-overview
• Claude:https://claude.ai/

✅Keywords
ai agents, github copilot, coding agents, automation, productivity, ai burnout, ai memory, privacy, workflows, devops, markdown, applied ai

Microsoft 365 Copilot Adoption is a Microsoft Press book for leaders and consultants. It shows how to identify high-value use cases, set guardrails, enable champions, and measure impact, so Copilot sticks. Practical frameworks, checklists, and metrics you can use this month. Get the book: https://bit.ly/CopilotAdoption

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