In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with Louisa Pacifico, founder of Future Icons about how makers turn skill into a viable business without undercutting their value. Louisa explains why premium craft succeeds through fewer higher value sales rather than volume, and why many artisans struggle because they price emotionally rather than commercially.

The conversation covers gallery relationships, press strategy licensing contracts and the importance of knowing when to say no. Louisa also discusses her role curating Future Icons Selects during London Craft Week and how makers should approach shows with clarity, purpose and realistic expectations. This episode offers practical insight for craftspeople who want longevity rather than noise.

Key Topics Covered

1. What Future Icons does for established makers
2. Pricing premium craft correctly
3. Understanding audience and market fit
4. Fewer sales higher margins business model
5. Why saying no protects long term value
6. Gallery introductions and exhibition strategy
7. Licensing work with international brands
8. Legal contracts and intellectual property
9. Press coverage and media positioning
10. Apprenticeships internships and education routes
11. Funding grants and bursaries for makers
12. Curating Future Icons Selects for London Craft Week

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Key Moments:

00:00 What Future Icons does and why it exists

03:00 Pricing problems in the craft sector

08:44 Knowing when not to do a show

15:27 Value based pricing versus cheap tenders

20:20 Learning business by doing

24:55 Funding education and apprenticeships

34:52 Curating Future Icons Selects

42:08 Regional buyers and gallery strategy

50:46 Advice to young makers

52:10 How to contact Louisa & Future Icons