In this episode of Research Matters, Steph Curnow speaks with Rich Pione, clinical psychologist and co-author of a service evaluation titled A reciprocal consultation model for integrated care: NHS Talking Therapies and substance use services published in The Cognitive Behaviour Therapist, part of the journal's special issue on CBT and addictions.

Rich and Steph explore what it looks like when Talking Therapies and substance use services work together, rather than in silos. They discuss why so many people with co-occurring mental health and substance use needs struggle to access the right support, and how a model built around reciprocal consultation and shared working can make a real difference. Rich reflects on what the pilot taught him, what he would do differently, and what he hopes clinicians will take away from the paper.

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Read the full paper here

Pione R, Adjovu P, Dolan C. A reciprocal consultation model for integrated care: NHS Talking Therapies and substance use services. The Cognitive Behaviour Therapist. 2026;19:e16. doi:10.1017/S1754470X25100469

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In this episode, Steph Curnow speaks with Fran Brady and Rachel Witkin about their paper, A phased approach for using CBT with adult survivors of human trafficking, published in The Cognitive Behaviour Therapist. The discussion explores why the paper was developed, highlighting the significant gaps in access to mental health care for survivors of human trafficking and the risks when trafficking experiences go unrecognised in clinical settings. Fran and Rachel emphasise that trafficking is often hidden in plain sight and more common than many realise, with survivors frequently remaining vulnerable to further exploitation.

The authors outline a three-phase model of care, focusing on establishing safety, remembrance and supporting reconnection and recovery. They also stress the importance of building trust through approaches such as bridging referrals, and reflect on the emotional impact of this work, highlighting the need for strong support systems for clinicians.

Resources:

Read the full paper here: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-cognitive-behaviour-therapist/article/phased-approach-for-using-cbt-with-adult-survivors-of-human-trafficking/C9701086F9429323A91EF058E640B40B

Brady, F., Gratton, J., Witkin, R., & Walsh, E. (2025). A phased approach for using CBT with adult survivors of human trafficking. The Cognitive Behaviour Therapist, 18, e57. doi:10.1017/S1754470X25100329

Witkin, R., & Robjant, K. (2022). The Trauma-Informed Code of Conduct for All Professionals Working with Survivors of Trafficking and Slavery.

Fran's co-authored paper on experience of trust in trafficking can be found here

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In this episode of Research Matters, Steph talks with Dr Rebecca Murphy about her forthcoming paper, Evolving perspectives on CBT-E for eating disorders: clarifying ten key points – misconceptions and communication gaps explored, published in The Cognitive Behaviour Therapist. Rebecca is a clinical psychologist and Research Director at the Centre for Research on Eating Disorders at Oxford, where she specialises in developing and disseminating evidence-based treatments for eating disorders, particularly CBT-E.

Rebecca discusses why she and her colleagues wrote the paper and identifies that there are not just misconceptions around CBT-E but areas where more clarification could be helpful for clinicians. Steph and Rebecca explore three of the most common misunderstandings, including concerns about rigidity, questions about the applicability of CBT-E in real clinical settings and therapist worries about treating people with co-occurring conditions. Rebecca explains how flexibility within fidelity supports truly individualised care, why outcomes in routine settings can match research trials, and how clinicians can deliver CBT-E effectively even when presentations feel complex.

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The paper discussed is:

Murphy, R., Bailey-Straebler, S., Dalle Grave, R., Calugi, S., Osborne, E. L., & Cooper, Z. (2025). Evolving perspectives on CBT-E for eating disorders: clarifying ten key points – misconceptions and communication gaps explored. The Cognitive Behaviour Therapist, 18, e50. doi:10.1017/S1754470X25100299

The full version of the article can be found freely available here: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-cognitive-behaviour-therapist/article/evolving-perspectives-on-cbte-for-eating-disorders-clarifying-ten-key-points-misconceptions-and-communication-gaps-explored/47CC468578C77CD65064DAFFE151A0B9

CBT E training and resources: https://www.cbte.co

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