Legacy, Momentum, and What’s Coming: David Kermis on the Future of Pro HCM
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We sat down with David Kermis, Sr. Director of Product Management for UKG Pro HCM—and yes, it was his first podcast (we politely popped his podcast cherry 😄). David shared what it means to build a career — and a product — with real longevity, reflecting on his journey from the Ultimate Software legacy to the new UKG and how that history shaped his perspective. We also talked about what’s coming next in the Pro HCM space, why strong product outcomes still come down to the fundamentals tech leaders can’t afford to ignore, and the practical considerations that go beyond the usual noise — and yes, it wasn’t an “AI episode.” He wrapped with a well-earned shoutout to his incredible team (the kind of appreciation you can’t fake). Fun, honest, and genuinely informative.