In this episode of All For Literacy, host Kerri Larkin sits down with Dr. Marisa Ramirez Stukey, Chief Academic Officer of The Reading League, to explore what it really takes to turn literacy research into meaningful classroom practice. Together, they unpack why the science of reading—while essential—is not enough on its own, and how the science of learning and implementation science are critical to achieving lasting, equitable literacy outcomes.

This conversation dives into the realities educators face every day, from competing initiatives to limited time and resources. Dr. Stukey challenges traditional ideas of fidelity, emphasizing integrity, context, and systems-level alignment. Listeners will come away with a clearer understanding of why real change requires not just adding new programs, but also removing barriers, de-implementing what no longer works, and supporting educators with coherent, connected professional learning.

• Why knowledge alone doesn’t change practice
• What implementation science looks like in real classrooms
• Fidelity vs. integrity in literacy instruction
• Identifying and removing systemic barriers
• The importance of de-implementation for long-term change

A must-listen for educators, school and district leaders, and anyone committed to evidence-based literacy transformation.