What really happened when a bishop called the police on a transgender member at church? In this episode, Hayden Holm sits down with Juliet Ingram to analyze the viral video surrounding the incident, as well as Juliet’s firsthand experience approaching and interviewing street protesters outside General Conference.Together, we unpack the stark difference between aggressive, performative outrage tactics and genuine, Christlike dialogue. From high-stakes local boundary decisions to street evangelists holding "burning in hell" graphics, we discuss how Latter-day Saints can defend their faith, respect sacred spaces, and disarm hostility with calm, quiet curiosity.In this episode, we cover:• The Viral Police Incident: Unpacking the video of an LDS bishop confronting and calling law enforcement regarding a transgender attendee.• Confronting Conference Protesters: Juliet shares what happened when she brought a microphone directly to street evangelists outside the Conference Center.• Aggressive Tactics vs. True Evangelism: Do fear-based signs, megaphones, and online outrage ever actually convert anyone?• The Social Media Echo Chamber: How algorithms amplify outrage culture, apologists, and sensationalized clips during General Conference.• Navigating Sacred Spaces & Boundaries: Balancing compassion, institutional guidelines, and gospel principles in modern church life.• How Members Can Respond: Practical advice for handling public hostility, standing firm in doctrine, and engaging others with love and sincere testimony.Guests & Resources:https://www.instagram.com/mjuliet_ingram/ https://x.com/ThoughtfulSaint/status/2109292220012486694?s=20 📌 Timestamp Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the episode and main themes04:34 Juliet Ingram's perspective on the bishop's response and love in action08:11 The bishop's handling of the protest and calling police11:16 Juliet's interaction with the protester and his reaction15:20 Members' strategies for engaging with protesters at General Conference18:25 The impact of protest tactics on faith and community environment22:13 The spirit of conference and the role of protestors25:20 Effectiveness of protest tactics in converting members30:39 Advice for protesters and engaging with faith respectfully34:00 The importance of understanding and compassion in evangelism37:35 The value of questions and disarming tactics in conversations39:41 The role of protests in strengthening faith and community42:03 The example of Alma and the Zoramites in love and service43:00 Reflections on Lehi's vision and the spirit of conference44:14 Advice for fathers and families in faith and defense45:56 The importance of strong relationships and sincere testimony46:41 Preparing youth for challenging social media and protest encounters47:04 Juliet Ingram's projects and social media presence47:48 Updates on Jeff Borders' book and upcoming projects48:11 Closing remarks and encouragement for faith and kindnessJoin our community and check out our upcoming retreat:https://strengthofdads.com/ 🔔 Subscribe for more faithful discussions on LDS doctrine, church culture, and gospel analysis!#lds