• E182 Greg
    Jan 18 2026

    Today's guest Greg was sober 18 plus years when I received a free sample of 7-OH at a vape shot. His use escalated, in part because he was started buying at wholesale prices and hit a bottom in 10 months. Greg was able to successfully taper off, and it now dedicated to growing KA, a 12-step group focused on kratom:

    Home | Kratom Anonymous

    https://www.kratom-anonymous.org/

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  • E181 Britton
    Jan 11 2026

    In the open, Lily and Jacob discuss the pitfall of only using the podcast as your sole source of support (don't do it!). In the interview, Britton, a 40-year-old MRI tech and endurance athlete from Colorado, shares his journey from using kratom, including 7OH at the end, for five years to achieving over a year of sobriety through AA's 12-step program. He and Lily explore:

    * The isolating nature of kratom addiction;

    * The brutal withdrawal process he endured cold turkey;

    * A deceptive progression from casual use to physical dependence to disordered consumption with an inability to quit despite a strong desire.

    Britton wants to help people - here is his number: 7eight5-2one8-08two4

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  • E180 Elliot Returns
    Jan 4 2026

    Recently, we've had a trend of welcoming back old guests mostly to celebrate anniversary milestones but in Elliot's case, he is returning to warn about the risk of relapse. After being almost off kratom for three years - June 2022 to March 2025 - Elliot tried 7-OH during a stressful time in his life. After about 9 months, and getting up to 2,000 mg at a cost of $300 day at his extreme, he is now back on track. Elliot's first appearance in May 2023: https://kratomsobriety.podbean.com/e/2-interview-with-elliot/

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  • E179 Middle Ground Kratom Regulation
    Dec 28 2025

    Kratom was banned in Connecticut and Louisiana this year, as well as in scores of cities. Ohio and California, two big states, are taking significant actions to crack down on kratom in 2025. What are the alternatives? This episode explores a middle-ground approach to kratom regulation that rejects both total bans and weak, industry-written rules. We introduce six common-sense protections, including point-of-sale education, clear medical warnings, behind-the-counter sales, age verification for online purchases, naloxone availability, and strict limits on high-potency extracts. The goal is to make kratom use safer by offering pre-purchase digital counselling, reducing impulsive purchases, protecting youth, and limiting the most addictive and dangerous products while preserving adult access to lower-risk leaf forms. READ MORE: https://kratomsobriety.com/f/middle-ground-kratom-regulations

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  • E178 Ramey Returns
    Dec 21 2025

    Jacob and Lily discuss how the hosts let guests tell their story from their point of view, and as a podcast we are not able to vet people before they are interviewed. Ramey celebrates two years off kratom with Natalie. To connect with the meetings discussed in the interview, please visit: https://kratomquitters.com/

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  • E177 Thomas
    Dec 14 2025

    Episode focused on quitting kratom with a lockbox as a tool. In the interview this week, Gen-Xer Thomas (long-time primarily a powder user with many attempted quits) describes the challenge as: "Addiction lies to you in your own voice".

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    A rough estimate of Thomas' end of day dose before he quit:

    Three heaping tablespoons of kratom powder ≈ 18–24 grams. Here is how that breaks down:

    A) 1 level tablespoon of kratom powder is usually about 5–7 grams

    B) A heaping tablespoon is typically 6–8 grams

    C) 3 heaping tablespoons → 6–8 g × 3 = 18–24 g

    Kratom powder density varies by grind, moisture, and how loosely it is scooped. "Heaping” is very subjective. Some heaps are modest, others are piled high. Volume measures are unreliable for kratom. A digital scale is the only accurate way to know dose. 18–24 grams is considered a very high dose for most people and is well into a range associated with dependence, tolerance escalation, and withdrawal risk.

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  • E176 Cornel Stanciu, M.D. discusses 7-OH
    Dec 7 2025

    Episode focused on 7-OH. Dr. Stanciu's credentials:

    https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/faculty/facultydb/view.php/?uid=7021

    Article Charlie & Jazz discuss about 7-OH potency in guinea pig intestines: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505008167

    FDA document Dr. Stancui refers to:

    https://www.fda.gov/media/187900/download

    News article about 7-OH bust from end of open: https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/breaking-bad-on-steroids-palm-bay-brevard-county-florida-drugs-kratom-7-oh-explosives-bust/

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  • 175 Melanie Returns to Celebrate a Year Off 7-OH
    Nov 30 2025
    Melanie (episode 110 from January 2025) returns to celebrate a year off 7-OH (quit date October 27, 2024). She is one of our first guests to discuss getting addicted specifically to 7-hydroxymitragynine products. Melanie also did not have any previous history of disordered substance use prior to this addiction. In follow-up questions after the interview, she texted Charlie the following responses - Melanie: Got up to spending $75 to $100 per day on 7-OH right before quitting.Took three and half days off of work during her detox.Never had withdrawals from mitragynine extract because she never took those daily. Getting laid-off from work six months after quitting was not related to her 7-OH addiction, though she did temporarily drink a little more to cope the first month she was unemployed. Several Statement Clarifications & Sources from Episode A. Charlie refers to 7-OH being “13 times more potent than morphine” The often-cited idea that 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) is “~13 times more potent than morphine” comes from receptor-level and animal data, not direct human dose equivalence. It refers to higher potency at the mu-opioid receptor and stronger analgesic effects in preclinical models. Source: Obeng S. et al. 7-Hydroxymitragynine Is an Active Metabolite of Mitragynine and a Key Mediator of Its Analgesic Effects. ACS Central Science, 2019. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acscentsci.9b00141 B. Melanie and Charlie talk about 7-OH’s “half-life of 3 hours” Human pharmacokinetic data show that 7-OH has a relatively short half-life (on the order of a few hours, depending on dosing and conditions), so “around three hours” is a reasonable simplification for listeners. Source: Obeng S. et al. Human Mitragynine and 7-Hydroxymitragynine Pharmacokinetics after Oral Dosing of a Mitragynine-Rich Kratom Extract. Molecules, 2024; 29(5):984. https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/29/5/984 C. Melanie says “it’s basically like heroin / legal heroin” This reflects Melanie’s personal subjective experience with high-potency 7-OH extract products. While 7-OH acts on opioid receptors and can cause dependence and withdrawal, kratom alkaloids differ from heroin in chemical structure, potency, and overdose profile. Source: Gorelick DA. Kratom: Substance of Abuse or Therapeutic Plant? Psychiatric Clinics of North America, 2022; 45(3):415–430. https://www.psych.theclinics.com/article/S0193-953X(22)00027-2/fulltext D. Charlie and Melanie discuss “synthetic kratom” Kratom leaves naturally contain mitragynine, and after drying and oxidation, trace amounts of 7-OH. Many 7-OH products contain synthetic or semi-synthetic analogs not found in the plant. These products can be far stronger than traditional kratom powder and carry different risks. Source: Prevete E. et al. A Preliminary Inventory of Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) Products and Vendors on the Darknet and Cryptomarkets. Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, 2024; 56(4):485–495. https://doi.org/10.1080/02791072.2023.2242361 E. Charlie compares 7-OH as “the cocaine of coca” This analogy is meant to illustrate the difference between a traditional plant product and its purified, concentrated alkaloid such as 7-OH. Coca leaves contain low levels of cocaine alkaloids and have historically been used in relatively mild ways, while cocaine is a chemically isolated, highly potent derivative. By analogy, ultra-potent 7-OH kratom extracts/synthetics are to kratom leaf what cocaine is to coca leaf: a conceptual comparison, not a direct pharmacological equivalence. Source: Naranjo PL. Social Function of Coca in Pre-Columbian America. Journal of Ethnopharmacology, 1981; 3(2–3):161–172. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0378874181900520 WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com https://kratomsobriety.com PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00
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