• Ep 37: Twenty years to publication: Writing through rejection
    Jan 29 2026

    In Episode 37, I have the privilege of speaking with three-time Pushcart nominee Bill Gaythwaite about his short story collection, A Place In The World, winner of the 2025 Drue Heinz Literature Prize.

    This stunning collection of compelling short stories features regular people battling betrayal, displacement, and loss and will leave you feeling a deep sense of connection with the characters. In A Place In The World, a teenage boy and his family grapple with the harsh realities of his father’s abandonment, a young lady yearns for belonging in the face of dispassionate affection, and a gay hustler’s secret is exposed.

    Beyond the collection, we discuss Bill’s staying power and his response to strings of rejections. This episode holds a powerful truth about the journey of artistry and is a much-needed reminder that consistency always rewards.

    Show highlights

    00:00 - Introduction

    1:22 – Resilience, the secret sauce

    1:51 - Being a Pushcart nominee

    3:37 - How to weave humour into painful stories

    6:38 - Using the element of surprise

    10:11 - How not to give up on a story

    11:45 - How to know when a story is not working

    12:45 - Building cohesiveness in a short story collection

    14:16 - The theme of belonging vs. mystery

    16:25 - Using the story within the story device

    18:17 - How to build a short story collection

    20:17 - The stories that didn’t make the collection

    22:39 - The sacrifice of publication

    24:16 - How to stay on the Journey of the Art


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    Listen on YouTube: https://youtu.be/NfrDy4OwIa8

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    Guest’s links

    Buy A Place In The World: https://upittpress.org/books/9780822948766/

    Connect with Bill on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/billgaythwaite/

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    Host’s links

    Find out more about the show: https://www.journeyoftheart.com/

    Follow Journey of the Art on Instagram: ⁠ https://www.instagram.com/journeyoftheartpod/

    Book a one-on-one with Lola: https://wordcaps.com/coaching/

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    29 min
  • Ep 36: Finding Her Voice As Her Mother Literarily Lost Hers
    Jan 15 2026

    In this episode, I have the honour of chatting with Minelle Mahtani to discuss her memoir, May It Have A Happy Ending.

    In May It Have A Happy Ending, Minelle travels back and forth in time to investigate the parallels between finding her voice in broadcasting and watching her mother lose hers to tongue cancer.

    The book is an exploration of voice, with people, animals, nature, and things speaking vividly about identity, belonging, and the importance of making our own place in the world. It challenges us to examine the impact of our voice, the manner of our questions and the weight of the answers we give others.

    It’s also an exploration of love. Of love that’s too much, too little, and love that’s just right.

    May It Have A Happy Ending is out now from Penguin Random House Canada.

    Show highlights

    00:00 - Introduction

    2:09 - Talking about how the book makes me feel

    5:57 - Laughing after death happens

    10:45 - Keeping the voicemails of loved ones

    15:31 - Holding love and the bad memories of the departed simultaneously

    17:58 - The scam of false hope and the vulnerability of caregivers

    20:51 - Finding home and idea

    22:59 - Passing down traditions and sharing the role of matriarch

    29:05 - Asking anti-colonial questions on the path to writing the book

    34:49 - Knowing the worth of her sound

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    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/0EbmSKFEpm8

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    Guest’s links

    Buy May It Have A Happy Ending: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/704247/may-it-have-a-happy-ending-by-minelle-mahtani/9780385675208

    Follow Minelle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/minellemahtani/

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    Host’s links

    Find out more about the show: https://www.journeyoftheart.com/

    Follow Journey of the Art on Instagram: ⁠ https://www.instagram.com/journeyoftheartpod/

    Book a one-on-one with Lola: https://wordcaps.com/coaching/

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    41 min
  • Ep 35: Telling Indigenous Stories of Joy and Creativity
    Dec 3 2025

    In this episode, I’m joined by award-winning Cree Métis storyteller and multidisciplinary artist Arnolda Dufour-Bowes to discuss her latest children's book, "Maggie Lou Meets Her Match." Arnolda shares her creative strategies, the importance of family and cultural storytelling, and her approach to balancing humor and serious themes in her work.

    You’ll find the initial part of our conversation deeply motivating as Arnolda talks about plunging headfirst into creative endeavours.

    Maggie Lou Meets Her Match is a story about girlhood, creativity, and Indigenous family traditions. But mostly, it’s about joy, healthy competition, and the audacity to discover the world through the balance of joy and pain.

    It’s out now from Groundwood Books.

    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction

    01:22 - Creative strategies and fearlessness

    07:31 - The Maggie Lou series

    09:01 - Family dynamics and Indigenous storytelling traditions

    11:51 - The balance of family love and discipline in Indigenous culture

    19:37 - Bringing back stories of joy

    21:51 - Celebrating playfulness and audacity in girls

    29:05 - Authenticity in writing about non-Western cultures

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    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Vmfsd1tJAAQ

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    Guest’s links

    Visit Arnolda’s website: www.arnoldadufourbowes.com

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    Host’s links

    Find out more about the show: https://www.journeyoftheart.com/

    Follow Lola on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/journeyoftheartpod/

    Book a one-on-one with Lola: https://wordcaps.com/coaching/

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    38 min
  • Ep 34: A journalist's journey to uncovering her mother's past as a war slave
    Nov 19 2025

    This moving episode with Halina St James is a conversation about intergenerational trauma, an exploration of a mother-daughter relationship, the Second World War, family secrets, love and forgiveness. Our conversation is centered around Halina’s new book, the Golden Daughter.

    The Golden Daughter takes us on a journey with Halina as she tries to uncover her mother’s past after discovering her mother’s secret stash of letters upon her passing. Halina translated these letters and then embarked on a journey that took her back to Germany, where it all began, to put the pieces together to find out who her mother was. This journey led her to her biological father’s grave and into the embrace of long-lost family.


    The Golden Daughter is out now from House of Anansi Press.

    Show highlights

    0:00 - Introduction

    2:44 - The beginning of the past: how the book began

    7:32 - Managing the emotional toll of writing a painful memoir

    12:04- The structure of truth

    14:37 - Stark abandonment: Finding family and belonging

    19:00 - The irony of secret keepers and the truth teller

    26:32- A journalist’s perspective on visions

    30:25 - Finding closure

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    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/3slKw8v3_7o

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    Guest’s links

    Buy The Golden Daughter: https://houseofanansi.com/products/the-golden-daughter?srsltid=AfmBOoqwfY-cF78zLf3R0rJ84FfYkPp0JHAVwpJ3BAknPoCPQY2no-03

    Find out more about Halina: www.halinastjames.com

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    Host’s links

    Find out more about the show: https://www.journeyoftheart.com/

    Follow Journey of the Art on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/journeyoftheartpod/

    Book a one-on-one with Lola: https://wordcaps.com/coaching/

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    45 min
  • Ep 33: Writing about African children in the diaspora
    Nov 5 2025

    In this episode, I have the privilege of speaking with Eddie Kawooya, author of the Ace and the Misfits series. We talk about how immigrant kids can foster friendships and a sense of purpose through sports.

    Inspired by his own immigrant experiences, Eddie brings to life a community of young boys who thrive through sports and a joint sense of purpose. Upheld by the storytelling traditions of his Ugandan heritage, and specifically, his grandmother’s stories, Eddie’s Ace and the Misfits series is nostalgic and provides crucial insights into the lives of young, immigrant boys.

    Ace and the Misfits vs the Soccer Knights is forthcoming in Spring 2026.


    Show Highlights

    00:00 – Introduction

    2:31 – Eddie’s journey as an artist

    11:29 – Discussing Ace and the Misfits vs The Soccer Knights

    14:04 – Drawing from his immigrant experience to write the book

    17:09 – Unpacking the challenges of immigration in children

    23:04 – Learning from his grandmother and drawing from Ugandan storytelling traditions

    28:40 – The hardest part of the book to write

    31:27 – Addressing the challenges of young, immigrant boys

    32:37 – Writing in the language of Gen Alphas

    35:12 – Tips for writing for African children in the diaspora

    37:55 – Full circle: Describing how he feels about his writing now


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    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/fmydDmFEuPY

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    Guest’s links

    Pre-order Ace and Misfits vs The Soccer Knights: https://lernerbooks.com/shop/show/26221

    Follow Eddie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boundless_kawooya/

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    Host’s links

    Find out more about the show: https://www.journeyoftheart.com/

    Follow Journey of the Art on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/journeyoftheartpod/

    Book a one-on-one with Lola: https://wordcaps.com/coaching/

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    41 min
  • Ep 32: Writing at 80, being Jewish in the South, & family complexities
    Oct 22 2025

    I’m truly honored to share this episode with Summer Brenner, fiction writer, poet, and the oldest guest on the show (Summer turned 80 this year)!

    In this episode, we step back in time to the 1950s through her memoir, DUST. We discuss her encounters with racism and being Jewish in the South, caring for her brother who suffered from schizophrenia, dealing with her father’s suicide, other complexities with her family, and her thoughts on writing for over fifty years.

    As I said on the show, this episode was as meaningful as I hoped it would be, and I hope you find it as meaningful too.

    Show highlights

    00:00 – Introduction

    02:08 – Summer on turning 80

    03:33 – On discovering writing and poetry

    7:15 – On freedom and happiness

    09:25 – Looking back after fifty years of writing

    11:47 – The impact of encountering racism on her life and her writing

    17:05 – On her father and his influence on her writing

    21:28 – On leaving to live and caring for her brother later in life

    30:36 – The hardest part of the book to write

    34:33 – Writing about family complexities and the family’s response

    42:08 – On being a multidisciplinary artist and finding fulfillment

    46:17 – Her secret to staying on the journey of the art

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    Listen on Spotify: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/journey-of-the-art

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    Guest’s links

    Buy DUST: https://www.amazon.com/Dust-Summer-Brenner/dp/1959556460/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=uPJ8A&content-id=amzn1.sym.a7785aa2-ac28-4769-b3eb-cff7b9738627&pf_rd_p=a7785aa2-ac28-4769-b3eb-cff7b9738627&pf_rd_r=140-8988532-3141708&pd_rd_wg=OtiJq&pd_rd_r=29f6d760-a810-4611-8e6f-4baae3cfc550&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk

    Visit Summer’s website: http://summerbrenner.com

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    Host’s links

    Find out more about the show: https://www.journeyoftheart.com/

    Follow Journey of the Art on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/journeyoftheartpod/

    Book a one-on-one with Lola: https://wordcaps.com/coaching/

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    51 min
  • Ep 31: When Rituals Become Wounds: Poetry, Anxiety, and the Questioning of God
    Oct 8 2025

    In this episode, my guest is Adedayo Agarau, author of The Years of Blood, a poetry collection that explores trauma, memory, anxiety, and immigration.

    Listen as we discuss the lack of emergency on ritual killings and abductions that inspired him to take on this subject, his struggles with mental health, and the ways community and religion impacted his ability to deal with his struggles.


    Show highlights

    00:00 – introduction

    03:10 – Adedayo Agarau’s journey as a writer

    14:39 – Taking on the subject of trauma

    28:30 - The challenge of explaining anxiety and depression in the diaspora

    37:04 - the questioning of God (the story of Taofiq) and predestination

    45:25 - The beauty of language in the collection

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    Guest's links

    • Buy The Years of Blood: https://fordhampress.com/the-years-of-blood-pb-9781531511616.html
    • Follow Adedayo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adedayoagarau

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    Host's links

    • Follow Journey of the Art on Instagram
    • Book a one-on-one with Lola: https://wordcaps.com/coaching/
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    58 min
  • Ep 30: "How does one find God when there's nothing in you?"
    Sep 24 2025

    In this episode with Saad Omar Khan, we discuss depression, faith, unrequited love, and the connections between these. We explore these in Khan’s latest work, Drinking the Ocean, which tells the story of Murad, whose carefully constructed reality is upset by a chance encounter with a long lost love. Set in England, Canada, and Pakistan, Drinking the Ocean forces us to contemplate deep questions on faith and family responsibility.

    Drinking the Ocean is out now from Buckrider Books.

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    Guest’s links

    Buy Drinking the Ocean: https://www.saadomarkhan.com/drinkingtheocean/

    Follow Omar on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/s.omar.khan/

    Contact Omar: https://www.saadomarkhan.com/contact/

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    Host’s links

    Find out more about the show: https://www.journeyoftheart.com/

    Follow Journey of the Art on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/journeyoftheartpod/

    Book a one-on-one with Lola: https://wordcaps.com/coaching/

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