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It's a Journey - a sustainable travel podcast

It's a Journey - a sustainable travel podcast

Di: Richard Hammond and Holly Tuppen
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In conversation with expert guests, Richard Hammond and Holly Tuppen draw on their years of experience in sustainable travel media to tackle the thorny issues and provide practical insights for a more responsible industry. Sponsored by Lemongrass.Richard Hammond and Holly Tuppen
  • Carbon Talks
    Jan 20 2026
    Episode 7: Carbon Talks – Is measuring your carbon emissions a worthwhile investment?Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠⁠⁠Holly and Richard discuss climate risk and regulation and what it has to do with tourism with guests Paul Easto, Founder and Chief Sustainability Officer, Wilderness Group, Nadine Pinto, Head of Sustainability, Touring for The Travel Corporation, and a special appearance from Charlie Cotton, founder of ecollective. In this latest episode, we unpack:Why travel businesses measure their carbon emissions and whether it leads to action How different businesses approach carbon measurement and pros and cons of those approaches What the investment is in measuring carbon and whether it's worth it Whether consumers care about carbon stats Common mistakes the travel industry makes and how to avoid them A comparison in carbon between a holiday in Scotland and cruise in Antarctica “It is very complicated and everyone's measuring different things at different paces. It's not always apples to apples. So I think that's something we need to work on as an industry to be able to make sure that we can compare.” Nadine Pinto “The frustration for us is how hard it is to actually influence change. But that's where I think it's great the work that Travel Corporation and others are doing. That's what we need to see across the industry… high level of collaboration that allows the supply chain to move on.” Paul Easto“It's not a matter of my calculator measures this, or mine's better than that. But I think it's just making sure that we're transparent on our methodology and our transparency is shared across the industry so that we can make progress.” Nadine PintoFind out more about our guests in this episode:Paul Easto, Founder and Chief Sustainability Officer, Wilderness GroupNadine Pinto, Head of Sustainability, Touring for The Travel CorporationCharlie Cotton, Founder, ecollectiveSome useful links to things mentioned in the show:Wilderness’ open source methodology which anyone can accessBallynahinch Hotel with a carbon emissions performance 85% better than the standard emission factors for a 5* hotel in IrelandThe Travel Corporation’s Partner Resource HubA video on what Travalyst is trying to achieve with its Data HubAnd helpful links from our sponsors, Lemongrass:Communicating Impact: Why It Matters for Travel Brands and 10 Ways to Communicate It EffectivelyEconomic Leakage In Tourism: What Is It, And What Can Travel Brands Do About It?Our Impact Report – and 6 top tips for doing your ownOvertourism: A Wicked Problem in Need of New SolutionsHow we are reducing our Carbon Emissions with Carbon Budgets5 things we learnt from Carbon Literacy training and how it can help your travel businessFollow for more:⁠⁠Holly Tuppen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Richard Hammond⁠⁠⁠⁠ And helpful information from our sponsors, ⁠⁠Lemongrass PR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:⁠Communicating Impact: Why It Matters for Travel Brands and 10 Ways to Communicate It Effectively⁠⁠Economic Leakage In Tourism: What Is It, And What Can Travel Brands Do About It?⁠⁠Our Impact Report – and 6 top tips for doing your own⁠⁠Overtourism: A Wicked Problem in Need of New Solutions⁠⁠How we are reducing our Carbon Emissions with Carbon Budgets⁠⁠5 things we learnt from Carbon Literacy training and how it can help your travel business⁠==It’s a Journey is a ground-breaking podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by Lemongrass, it tackles the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places.Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm⁠
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  • Risk and Regulation
    Jan 6 2026
    Episode 6: Risk and Regulation – Is climate a ticking time bomb for those not yet on board? ?Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠⁠⁠Holly and Richard discuss climate risk and regulation with guests Jeremy Sampson, CEO, The Travel Foundation and Willy Legrand, Professor of Tourism, Hospitality and Event Management at IU International University.In this episode, we unpack:What climate regulation, if any, is coming for the tourism industry How risk associated with climate collapse is making some tourism products and destinations unviable How we could turn demanding systemic challenges into creative and innovative solutions What businesses need to do now to future proof for a changing world The need to rebrand climate action, adaptation and risk to galvanise coordinated action Why we might be getting too distracted by frameworks and certifications "The most durable sustainability shifts probably happen when grassroots momentum creates political permission for smart regulations" Willy Legrand“We’ve got an ‘urgency deficit’ because there are so many distractions, everything overrides the long-term, even in business and even if it’s an existential threat.” Willy Legrand"The biggest risk is that people think that climate change is tomorrow's work, but it's today's risk." Jeremy Sampson “We are in a pre-regulation phase where there are lots of signals that tourism will have to be regulated.” Jeremy Sampson Find out more about our guests in this episode:Jeremy Sampson, CEO, The Travel FoundationWilly Legrand, Professor of Tourism, Hospitality and Event Management at IU International UniversityShow notes:⁠⁠Empowering Consumers Directive, also known as the Directive on Empowering Consumers for the Green Transition, is a new EU law that came into force in March 2024, with an application date of September 27, 2026.Economic losses from extreme weather events in 2025 amount to 43 billion Euros, as published in The Guardian. Where next? - Travel Foundation - a new report that sets out a global action agenda for tourism’s climate transition. It outlines four practical, interconnected ideas that would allow tourism to course-correct, at the scale and pace needed, towards climate resilience, economic viability and social equity for destinations worldwide.New Guide to Action on Climate Change - Travel Foundation - a new edition of the report, Destination Stewardship: A Guide to Action on Climate Change, with Destination Wayfinder. It outlines 37 actions and lots of case studies from around the world.Destination RiskScan: Innovation for tourist destinations in a warming world contains info about the Travel Foundation's Destination Climate RiskScan initiative, which aims to help tourism destinations around the world better understand and respond to climate change risks.Follow for more:⁠Holly Tuppen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Richard Hammond⁠⁠⁠ And helpful information from our sponsors, ⁠Lemongrass PR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:Communicating Impact: Why It Matters for Travel Brands and 10 Ways to Communicate It EffectivelyEconomic Leakage In Tourism: What Is It, And What Can Travel Brands Do About It?Our Impact Report – and 6 top tips for doing your ownOvertourism: A Wicked Problem in Need of New SolutionsHow we are reducing our Carbon Emissions with Carbon Budgets5 things we learnt from Carbon Literacy training and how it can help your travel business==It’s a Journey is a ground-breaking podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by Lemongrass, it tackles the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places.Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm⁠
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    46 min
  • New Year Special
    Dec 30 2025

    Richard and Holly look back at 2025 and discuss what't hot and what's not for the year ahead.

    Some of the significant developments in 2025 discussed are Intrepid's change to it's Climate Action Plan that Richard thinks will likely reverberate across the industry in 2026, as well as the decision by the office of Rail and Road to grant Virgin Trains access to Temple Mills which could open the door to future international train services. Holly was excited by the launch of Rewilding Europe's travel booking platform WilderPlaces.com, and they discuss the rise in the phenomenon of 'Coolcations' as well as the ongoing issues of overtourism, and that in Hilton's trend report, 'road trips' were identified as one of the stand out themes for 2026.

    Looking ahead to 2026, Holly is excited to see how Julie Cheetham as the new CEO of Travalyst takes forward its new Data Hub, which launched at the end of 2025, as well as seeing The Travel Foundation's 'Where Next' campaign develop with its hard-hitting themes of climate justice, climate adaptation and risk of the climate crisis. Richard and Holly also discuss some of the exciting new overland routes in Europe, including overnight coach and rail services.

    For Richard, travel highlights of the year included a visit to Les Arcs, the first B Corps mountain resort in Europe, seeing community-based conservation projects in Saint Lucia, discovering rural life in Gran Canaria and visiting it's neighbouring island El Hierro, and exploring the coast of West Sweden. For Holly, travel highlights included a swimming holidays in Malta, a press trip with Exodus to support the work of Rewilding Apeninnes, and a family holiday in Albania enjoying a 'day in the life of a shepherd' with Undiscovered Balkans.


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    It’s a Journey is a brand new podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠⁠, the series tackles the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places.

    Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm⁠


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