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Inorganic Podcast

Inorganic Podcast

Di: Christian Hassold & Ayelet Shipley
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Ayelet Shipley and Christian Hassold host the Inorganic Podcast. Ayelet and Christian have combined 20 years of experience helping venture and private equity sponsors execute mergers and acquisitions in SaaS and digital agencies in the U.S. and Europe.


On this podcast, Ayelet and Christian discuss M&A strategy, sourcing tactics, and other dynamics around mergers and acquisitions. They also report on market activity, emphasizing larger companies buying smaller SaaS or agencies and discussing the rationale behind the deals and economics. We sometimes invite guests to join our discussion, building on our mission to make the art and science of M&A more transparent for buyers, sellers, and financial sponsors.



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  • E47: Solving Problems Through Acquisition ft. Tom Shipley
    Jan 15 2026

    In this engaging episode, co-hosts Ayelet Shipley and Christian Hassold welcome Tom Shipley to share his journey of building and scaling businesses through acquisitions. He discusses the challenges and opportunities in mergers and acquisitions (M&A) present, emphasizing the importance of strategic thinking and relationship building. The conversation also explores partnership dynamics and the role of external partners in resolving conflicts. Tom highlights the power of acquisitions in overcoming business challenges and achieving growth, offering insights into the process of identifying and acquiring businesses.


    Takeaways

    • Acquisitions can solve almost every business challenge.
    • Partnership dynamics often require external mediation.
    • Strategic thinking is crucial in M&A.
    • Building relationships is key to successful acquisitions.
    • Acquisitions offer a faster path to business growth.
    • Understanding seller motivation is essential in deals.
    • Partnership conflicts can hinder business progress.
    • Acquisitions can provide liquidity and strategic opportunities.


    Chapters

    00:46 Tom Shipley’s Path Into M&A

    01:38 The First Acquisition That Changed Everything

    05:34 Using Acquisitions to Solve Cash and Capability Gaps

    08:28 Buy vs. Build: Rethinking Entrepreneurship

    09:37 Seller Motivation and Why Deals Exist Everywhere

    11:50 Organic Growth vs. Acquisition Math

    13:41 Partnership Misalignment as a Growth Blocker

    14:21 How M&A Can Resolve Partner Deadlock

    19:26 Mergers as a Reset for Growth and Liquidity

    28:40 The Valley of Despair for Mid-Market Founders

    29:45 Buying the Next Chapter vs. Starting Over

    31:50 Where to Find Acquisition Opportunities

    37:49 Adding a Zero: Expanding the Mental Model

    39:44 DealCon, Reources, and Community


    Connect with Christian and Ayelet

    Ayelet’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayelet-shipley-b16330149/

    Christian's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hassold/

    Web: https://www.inorganicpodcast.co

    In/organic on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InorganicPodcast/featured


    Connect with Tom Shipley

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/t-shipley/


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    41 min
  • E46: The UK Independent Agency Scene w/Robin Skidmore, CEO Journey Further
    Jan 8 2026

    In this episode of the Inorganic Podcast, co-host Christian Hassled interviews Robin Skidmore, a seasoned entrepreneur and the founder and CEO of Journey Further. They discuss Robin's journey from humble beginnings to founding successful agencies, including Epiphany Search and Journey Further. The conversation explores the evolution of Journey Further, its recent acquisition of Salderson Media, and the challenges of expanding into the U.S. market. Robin shares insights on agency culture, the current state of the UK agency market, and the importance of adapting to changes in consumer behavior and technology, particularly AI. The episode concludes with a discussion on Robin's investments in startups and the significance of maintaining a strong company culture as the agency grows.


    Takeaways

    • Robin Skidmore's entrepreneurial journey began with a car wash at age 12.
    • Journey Further was launched in 2017 with a clear roadmap for growth.
    • The agency focuses on performance media and aims to be creatively driven.
    • Acquisition of Salderson Media was strategic for expanding capabilities.
    • Expanding to the U.S. market presented unique challenges and cultural differences.
    • Maintaining a strong company culture is crucial for agency success.
    • The UK agency market is experiencing consolidation and increased competition.
    • AI is transforming the marketing landscape, requiring agencies to adapt.
    • Investing in startups allows for a deeper understanding of client challenges.
    • Cultural dynamics influence agency operations and client relationships.


    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to Robin Skidmore and Journey Further

    02:14 Robin's Entrepreneurial Journey and Epiphany Search

    04:52 The Evolution of Journey Further

    08:13 Acquisition of Salderson Media and Market Relevance

    10:32 Expanding to the U.S. Market: Challenges and Insights

    17:31 Cultural Differences in Agency Operations

    20:16 Lessons from Epiphany to Journey Further

    23:29 The State of the UK Agency Market

    26:21 Future Growth Strategies and Inorganic Expansion

    30:28 Cultural Dynamics in Agency Growth

    34:21 Investments Beyond Agencies: The Pub and Startups

    41:22 Maintaining Culture and Addressing AI Challenges


    Connect with Christian and Ayelet

    Ayelet’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayelet-shipley-b16330149/

    Christian's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hassold/

    Web: https://www.inorganicpodcast.co

    In/organic on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InorganicPodcast/featured

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    51 min
  • E45: M&A Frenzy in the AI Era
    Jan 4 2026

    In this episode, co-hosts Ayelet Shipley and Christian Hassold delve into AI related acquisitions, particularly focusing on outsized valuation multiples and whether they are sustainable or extensible to the digital agency sector. They discuss the valuation multiples seen in recent AI focused acquisitions led by Meta, Nvidia, Cvent, and OpenAI, and opine on the race for talent in the AI era. The conversation highlights the evolving landscape of agency capabilities in the face of AI advancements and the potential for consolidation in the market. The hosts also explore the future of digital agencies and the opportunities that lie ahead for strategic acquirers in the AI domain.


    Takeaways

    • AI is driving significant M&A activity in the tech sector.
    • Recent acquisitions show high valuation multiples for AI companies.
    • The trend of acquiring talent over products is prevalent in AI M&A.
    • Digital agencies must adapt to the changing landscape influenced by AI.
    • There is a potential consolidation in the agency market due to AI advancements.
    • Strategic acquirers are looking for speed to market through AI capabilities.
    • The valuation of AI startups is often based on capital raised rather than revenue.
    • The market for AI capabilities in agencies is still developing.
    • Founders may need to be realistic about their exit multiples in the current environment.
    • The future of digital agencies will be shaped by AI innovations.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to AI Trends

    01:03 M&A Activity in AI

    05:16 Valuation Multiples in AI Acquisitions

    11:00 The Talent Acquisition Race

    15:18 AI's Impact on Agencies

    19:07 Future of Digital Agencies

    25:01 Opportunities in AI Acquisitions


    Connect with Christian and Ayelet

    Ayelet’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayelet-shipley-b16330149/

    Christian's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hassold/

    Web: https://www.inorganicpodcast.co

    In/organic on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InorganicPodcast/featured

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    31 min
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