This week we are thrilled to be speaking with Dr Michael Klaper, M.D.

Dr Klaper is an experienced physician, educator, and author who has spent decades advocating for a preventive approach to healthcare grounded in healthy, whole-food, plant-based diets.

Through the non-profit organisation Moving Medicine Forward, Dr Klaper’s current work centres on integrating nutrition and lifestyle education into medical training, empowering future doctors to use diet to prevent and reverse chronic diseases, aiming for a more holistic healthcare system.

If you’re interested in the future of medicine, climate and health, preventive healthcare, or medical education reform, this episode offers a powerful and thought-provoking perspective on how clinicians can help build a healthier, more sustainable world.

To find out more and connect with Dr Klaper:

https://www.movingmedforward.org/

The books recommended in this episode:

http://comfortablyunaware.com/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58788258-food-is-climate

Meet Dr Klaper at VCO26:

https://www.vegancampout.co.uk/

Link to Karen Lee's book launch online meeting:

https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/PBkwD14YQdeGNwFyZ3Skyw?_x_zm_rtaid=FwMPrSGOTOahbsDIRb72jA.1768386534935.d80a54aa744af3c37e6b3c922ce0e42d&_x_zm_rhtaid=535#/registration

This week's bonus episode completes our two-parter on psoriasis, as we hear from PBHP member, Kate Dunbar, who prior to the adoption of a whole food plant-based diet was significantly affected by the disease. She has gone on to run marathons, and is the creative master behind many of PBHP's factsheets.Her story is an inspiration to anyone suffering from an autoimmune disease who may have been told diet and lifestyle don't matter. Her experience has even been written up as a case study.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34366737/

Kate is always very generous with sharing her time and passion regarding the healing powers of food. You can follow her on Instagram @kate.dunbar, find her on Facebook, or email her, kate-dunbar@hotmail.com

We are so excited to be back In The Nutshell as we kick off season six with dual qualified NHS Consultant Dermatologist and nutritionist Dr Thivi Maruthappu.

We cover the inflammatory condition, psoriasis, and find out why it is considered a systemic condition, and how it links to obesity, cardiovascular disease, and metabolic health. Dr Thivi outlines the potential mechanisms through which diet and lifestyle influence systemic inflammation, immune pathways, and the gut microbiome.

We take a closer look at the APPLE study (Asking People with Psoriasis about Lifestyle and Eating), co-led by Dr Thivi and researchers at King’s College London, exploring how overall diet quality relates to psoriasis severity, and how dietary patterns rich in plant-based foods are associated with better outcomes, providing important data that lifestyle and dietary assessments have a key role to play alongside standard clinical care.

To access the study:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39973353/

Zanesco S, Maruthappu T, Griffiths CEM, Dalrymple KV, Gibson R, Hall WL. Associations between diet quality indices and psoriasis severity: results from the Asking People with Psoriasis about Lifestyle and Eating (APPLE) cross-sectional study. British Journal of Nutrition (2025)

To connect with Dr Thivi:

https://drthivi.com/

To buy Dr Thivi's book:

https://drthivi.com/skinfood-your-4-step-solution-healthy-happy-skin/

To sign up to the Veganuary myth busting talk on Tuesday 13th January 2026 please email Phil.lang@nhs.net

The Made in Hackney book discussed :

https://madeinhackney.org/buy-our-new-cookbook-we-cook-plants-%F0%9F%8C%B1/

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