In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily sit down with Heather Smith, founder of the Moxie School, for a rich conversation about Internal Family Systems, psychedelic facilitation, and the profound healing potential of bringing these two modalities together. Heather shares how her search for more effective tools for transformation led her first to IFS and then to psychedelic-assisted therapy—and ultimately inspired her to train practitioners in skillful, self-led facilitation.

Together, they explore the relationship between parts work and expanded states, the difference between holding space and truly guiding a journey, and why psychedelic facilitators must be willing to know their own shadows before accompanying others into theirs. They also discuss the spiritual dimensions of Self energy, healing as an innate intelligence, and the delicate dance between intervention and restraint. At its heart, this conversation is an invitation to approach healing with greater curiosity, compassion, attunement, and moxie.

Connect with Heather:https://moxieschool.com/

About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her ⁠experience supporting others⁠ on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.

Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com⁠/

About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.

Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com⁠/

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.

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In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily sit down with Hamilton Souther for a wide-ranging and deeply substantive conversation on healing, humility, and what it means to build a life in service to spirit. A deeply trained and widely respected figure in the psychedelic space, Hamilton joins from the Peruvian Amazon to reflect on the spiritual awakening that led him from a conventional American upbringing into the heart of the jungle, where he ultimately apprenticed for years within the Matsés Amazonian lineage and dedicated his life to plant medicine.

Together, they explore the healing roots of Amazonian medicine, what it means to bridge worlds with integrity, and Hamilton’s vision for a future in which people are empowered to cultivate safe, grounded self-practice in community rather than outsourcing all authority to a handful of gatekeepers. The conversation moves through especially rich terrain: integration as a daily lived practice, the role of community in psychedelic culture, spiritual bypassing, and the tension between transcendence and grounded reality.

Hamilton also shares his provocative perspective that “money is spirit,” opening up a thoughtful exploration of scarcity, abundance, value, and the patterns that shape our relationship to resources. Woven throughout is a larger inquiry into soul, technology, and how ancient wisdom might inform the future of healing. It’s a conversation full of depth, clarity, and big-picture vision—with a few jungle sounds in the background to remind listeners that the forest is in the room, too.
Connect with Hamilton:

Website: https://bluemorpho.orgInsta: @bluemorpho_org

Gaia Labs https://www.gaialabs.io

About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her ⁠experience supporting others⁠ on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.

Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com⁠/

About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.

Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com⁠/

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.

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In this episode of In Right Relationship, Liz and Lily sit down with Tonia Erin—a soul path coach, ceremonialist, and “temple weaver” whose work is devoted to ritual, remembrance, and midlife initiation. Together, they reframe midlife not as a crisis, but as a powerful awakening—a threshold where dissonance becomes intelligence, the body becomes oracle, and the soul starts calling louder than the old playbook.

The conversation moves from the creation of an earth-built ceremonial “cave” (a living container that holds and transmutes energy) into the cultural loss of rites of passage—and how simple, accessible rituals can bring meaning back into everyday life. They also open an honest, nuanced dialogue about 5-MeO-DMT—including the tenderness of “dual reality,” the importance of set/setting, facilitator neutrality, and why integration (and often spaciousness) matters so much with this particular medicine.

Connect with Tonia:

Website: www.toniaerin.com

Insta: @sacred_gnosis

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/toniaerin/

Midlife Wisdom Circle: https://www.lanechangeconsulting.com/midlifewisdom

About Liz: Liz Chernett is a Psychedelic Guide & Alchemy Coach, with a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Naturally, psychedelics have played a vital role in her own self-actualization and healing, along with 20+ years of psychotherapy, coaching, and spiritual exploration. Her ⁠experience supporting others⁠ on their journeys of psychedelic-assisted empowerment—including high-dose journeys and microdosing—brings together her passion for parts work, depth psychology, and storytelling. Before walking this path, she spent nearly two decades working for fashion and wellness brands as a creative director. Liz lives in Philly with her partner and son, finding joy through traveling the earth and the cosmos, reading and writing poetry, communing with the trees, and loving on her dear ones.

Connect with Liz: https://www.kaleidoscopeeyecoaching.com⁠/

About Lily: Lily Eggers is an LMFT #87580, with a Degree in Somatic Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies; She also holds a a certification in Integration Coaching from the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Lily has been working experientially with couples as a counselor and bodyworker/yoga instructor for 20 years. Her life's work is supporting couples to experience more presence, vitality, creativity and fun! Lily lives with her husband and two children in Marin County, California and celebrates life by dancing, riding her bike, skinny dipping, hiking in the woods, consciously exploring psychedelics, and composing medicine music. She's writing a book entitled "The Intentional Relationship: 9 Weeks to Ignite Consciousness, Connection, Playfulness and Passion" due to come out Spring, 2025.

Connect with Lily: http://www.lilyeggers.com⁠/

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered professional or medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before taking any action based on the topics discussed in this conversation.

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