Imitation Nation Podcast No 37 Counterfeit News Video

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In this episode, Shabbir and Sven explore the complexities of counterfeit products, focusing on airbags and luxury watches. They discuss the challenges faced by online marketplaces in verifying authenticity and the broader implications for safety and brand integrity. Transcript: shabbir (00:01) Sven welcome to episode number thirty seven, a prime number I'd point out of Imitation Nation. Sven (00:08) Okay. That that took me a second to think, but yes, that is a prime number. happy Friday. How are you? shabbir (00:13) I'm good. I usually try and Sven (00:14) Okay. shabbir (00:15) pretend that I take Fridays off. I clearly never take Fridays off. But I am dressed down as if I am taking Friday off. In the sweatshirt of my daughter's high school, which is for all of us of a certain age, it's a fame high school, like from the TV shows. So she spends half Sven (00:31) Nice. shabbir (00:32) her day playing cello. Sven (00:33) That's lovely. That actually was an excellent movie, side note. So today today is today is the 80s movie day. I reminded Stacy, one of our team members, today on some good 80s movie she should watch with everything developing in AI, I recommended she watch War Games. I don't know if you remember that movie with Matthew Broderick. Just shabbir (00:52) Yes. Sven (00:53) stuff just becoming really real. And I'm like, you might want to watch that because that's it's very, very relevant right now. So shabbir (00:59) The only shabbir (01:00) winning move is not to play. Sven (01:02) There you go, good quote, shabbir (01:03) Ha ha ha. Sven (01:04) like it. Well good to see you, sir. shabbir (01:08) Good to see you and good to see us both in our home. I think we just recorded an episode recently from you in a hotel room in Colorado, which was a very scenic warm lamp you had, just like the one you have in your office. Sven (01:19) That was lovely, yeah. No, and and this is one of the few where I'm not travelling. Starting next week it's gonna be it's gonna be a wild three months of travel. shabbir (01:29) Yeah. I Sven (01:30) So you will see me Sven (01:31) in lots of unusual spots during our recordings, I think. shabbir (01:35) I I am going to be traveling to visit with pa a patient victim next week and try and get her story on camera. And remains to be seen if I will be traveling internationally for more peptide victims, but we're finding them all over the world. People I'll just say this, we're not gonna do a whole story on this, but don't be taking those unapproved by the FDA peptides. That is not safe. Sven (01:58) no. Sven (01:59) No, and as as you and I talked about, because you you told me about this, I started researching it, and so I started researching it on my social media platforms. And because these algorithms now think that I like this or I'm looking for that, my entire social media feed is now full of this. And it is scary what's out there. So yeah, don't don't don't take any of this unapproved stuff. It's crazy. shabbir (02:24) So I want to start talking about airbags because Sven (02:29) Okay. shabbir (02:30) we have talked a lot about airbags, we talked about the big jury settlement, the big award, wrongful Sven (02:37) Mm-hmm. shabbir (02:38) death suit. In that case, the airbag was sold on eBay. And eBay responded this week by banning the sale of airbags on its platform. Not surprisingly. Sven (02:51) I'm I'm sure it's complete Sven (02:52) completely uncorrelated. I'm sure it's completely uncorrelated. shabbir (02:57) So this takes effect September twenty-fourth. eBay will probi prohibit the sale of all airbags and airbag inflators after a series of fatalities. I think we have nine or ten deaths in the US that have been traced to counterfeit airbags and the six hundred and three million dollar wrongful death verdict. The one young woman with children who don't have a mother anymore. the lawsuit did name eBay. I don't know if that was the deciding factor, but eBay has not shabbir (03:25) eBay is not what I would call a poor actor all the time. I mean everybody has in the brand protection world has issues with eBay, but they it's you cannot call them non-responsive. but in this case they have chosen to to respond by banning the sale of of of airbags on its platform. And I I think you've looked at the other platforms that are that that have policies on airbags, Sven. What have you found? Sven (03:50) no, and and I think, you know, well, so first of all, glad that eBay is doing this. Like it's one of those moves that's just it's very overdue. was the lawsuit a contributing factor? I would just say yes. I'm sure that they looked at it and say, hey, listen, this while they got dismissed from the lawsuit because of section 230 protection, a six hundred three million dollar verdict. You're like, you look at this and you're like, listen, that's not worth it. and but more importantly. Sven (04:17) Is pretty much every other large platform: Amazon, Facebook Marketplace, Alibaba, ...

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