Grief is grief is grief - and if you support people, lead teams, or live with loss yourself, this conversation will change how you think about it. Suzanne Jabour returns to unpack the overlooked world of pet loss, why it hits so hard, and how intuition led her from grief education into a new mission that many people desperately need.

After the death of her son Ben, Suzanne built a life around helping others understand grief more clearly. Now she’s following a new trail of breadcrumbs into pet-loss support, where shame, dismissal, guilt, and complicated family dynamics often leave people grieving in silence. She and Dave explore why pet loss is so often disenfranchised, why it can reopen older grief, and why animals can become anchors of comfort, identity, and survival.

You’ll discover:

• Why “you can just get another one” is one of the most harmful responses to pet loss
• How pet grief can be intensified when an animal is linked to a deceased loved one
• Why some pets become lifelines during the hardest seasons of life
• What actually happens inside Suzanne’s pet loss gatherings
• The surprising framework that makes support more effective: say something open, offer something specific
• Why grieving people need long-term help, not just sympathy in the first few days

Dave also brings his own lived experience of profound loss, creating a raw, honest conversation about how grief reshapes identity, how support groups help people find language and belonging, and why the emotional load of loss cannot be measured by society’s approval of it. Together, they make the case for a kinder, smarter, more human way of showing up for people in pain.

This episode is essential listening for grief professionals, pet lovers, caregivers, workplace leaders, and anyone who has ever felt dismissed in their mourning. If you’ve ever wondered how to support someone after a loss - or what to do with your own - this conversation gives you the language, the perspective, and the reminder that no grief deserves to be minimized.

Suzanne’s Bio and Contact Information

Suzanne is a grieving mom who has found meaning in her loss through providing grief education – sharing how grief really works and how we can support people experiencing it. She works with organizations and businesses to build the skills and protocols to better support people who are grieving at work. She is available as a speaker to share her story and help normalize grief as a healthy response to losses big and small. She has a BA and BEd and decades of experience as a trainer. She is a certified Grief Educator, Transformational Coach and Workshop Leader.

Connect with Suzanne Jabour

Website: https://suzannejabour.com

Pet Loss Gatherings: https://suzannejabour.com/pets

LInkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/suzanne-jabour

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