In this episode of From Here to There®, host Daphne Bryson Jackson sits down with veteran entertainment attorney Bernie Lawrence-Watkins to explore the business of creativity and the power of ownership in the music and entertainment industries.

For nearly two decades, Bernie has represented Grammy® Award-winning producers, platinum-selling artists, record executives, and entertainment companies—negotiating complex licensing agreements, protecting intellectual property, and helping creatives secure the wealth their talent generates.

But her work goes far beyond contracts.

Bernie has built a career standing at the intersection of law, culture, and commerce—advocating for artists, mentoring young lawyers, supporting community initiatives, and helping the next generation understand the value of ownership in creative industries.

This episode explores the unseen side of the entertainment business: the deals, negotiations, and legal protections that transform creativity into generational wealth.

For anyone navigating business, intellectual property, entrepreneurship, or the music industry, this conversation reveals why protecting your work may be just as important as creating it.

From Here to There® We'll meet you at the next intersection.

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