This is a repost of one of our most important and challenging conversations—because the questions it raises are still being asked, and the Church still needs honest, biblical clarity on spiritual warfare. In this episode, Jay sits down with Dean Vander Mey for a raw, grounded, and deeply biblical conversation about demonization, repentance, and spiritual oppression—topics that are often avoided or misunderstood in modern Christianity. Together, they unpack what Scripture actually teaches about spiritual darkness, the reality of the demonic, and how the enemy still works in the lives of believers today.Dean shares powerful firsthand stories from ministry, including encounters in Africa and with families involved in witchcraft, revealing how access is gained, how deception operates, and how the gospel calls believers to stand in truth and freedom. The conversation also addresses one of the most important tensions in spiritual care: discerning the difference between mental health struggles and spiritual oppression, and why both require wisdom, humility, and compassion. If you’ve ever wrestled with questions about deliverance, oppression, or spiritual warfare, this conversation will challenge and strengthen your faith.

***CHAPTERS***

(0:00) Episode Preview

(0:41) Podcast Intro

(1:06) Picking back up on Deliverance from Evil Spirits / Oppression

(2:34) 2 Kingdoms in a War

(5:09) Christians Are Not Prepared

(6:44) Demons in the Bible and Today

(8:48) The Demonized Man in Africa

(11:08) A Family of Witch Doctors - Little Susie

(13:49) Can Christians be Demonized?

(16:34) How Does the Enemy Get Access to Christians?

(19:41) The Message of the Gospel: Repentance

(21:25) Why Don't They Teach Spiritual Warfare?

(23:19) The Man Who Wanted to Commit Suicide

(25:44) Spiritual Oppression or Mental Illness?

(26:15) Closing

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