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In this powerful and practical episode of the Leadership Paradigm Podcast, host Christina Lee sits down with talent development leader Debbie Masak to unpack one of the most critical — and often misunderstood — elements of leadership development: Return on Investment (ROI).

This conversation moves beyond inspiration and into impact. Debbie shares real-world insights from her journey in talent development, including how she helped design and measure programs that didn’t just feel good — they delivered measurable business results, including an extraordinary 1600% ROI.

Together, Christina and Debbie explore why leadership initiatives must align with business strategy, how visibility accelerates leadership growth, and why personal investment is the cornerstone of professional advancement.

If you're a CEO, HR executive, talent leader, or emerging leader, this episode will challenge you to think differently about how leadership development is funded, measured, and sustained.

Metrics That Matter

Debbie and Christina highlight several measurable indicators organizations should track when evaluating leadership initiatives:

• Promotion and succession readiness rates
• Retention and turnover cost avoidance
• Performance improvement metrics
• Engagement scores
• Productivity gains
• Financial impact tied to leadership performance

Memorable Moment

Debbie shares the story behind a leadership development program that achieved a 1600% return on investment, demonstrating what’s possible when strategy, measurement, and intentional design come together.

Who Should Listen

• CEOs and Executive Leaders
• CHROs and Talent Development Professionals
• Organizational Development Practitioners
• Leadership Coaches
• Emerging Leaders seeking strategic growth
• Anyone responsible for proving the value of leadership initiativesChapters
  
  00:00 Introduction to Leadership Paradigm Podcast
  03:24 Meet Debbie Masak: A Leader in Talent Development
  05:19 Understanding ROI in Leadership Development
  12:07 The Importance of Visibility in Leadership
  17:27 Aligning Leadership Development with Business Impact
  21:41 Investing in Personal Development for Organizational Benefit
  27:20 Measuring Coaching Impact
  39:06 Finding Your Why
  43:40 Rapid Fire Insights
  
  

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