In this deeply moving conversation, Karen, Rosy, and guest Clare Palmer explore
what it means to live well within chronic illness. Clare shares her 20-year journey
with pain, headaches, tiredness and frustration with the medical system, to
discovering the life-changing power of self-connection, nervous system
regulation, and emotional sovereignty.

Through creative self-care practices like Heart Rate Variability (HRV) monitoring to
learn how to achieve cardiac coherence, Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT)
tapping, Yoga Nidra meditation, gratitude, journalling and grounding in nature, Clare has found a new balance. Whilst not cured, she has found the way to change her mindset, developing resilience, patience, self-compassion, and authenticity in a healing dance of re-integration of mind, body, and spirit.

Karen and Rosy reflect on the safe spaces, support and co-regulation it takes with
caring others to be safe enough to feel, grieve, and heal. Together, they invite
listeners to witness Clare’s inspiring story as a reminder that when we are hurting,
healing begins with listening to ourselves and connecting with ourselves to receive our own compassion and care.

Chapters

• 00:00 – Karen returns after illness and introduces Clare Palmer
• 02:00 – Clare’s story: from accident to chronic pain and fibromyalgia
• 05:00 – Discovering the limits of the medical system
• 07:30 – Meeting Rosy and the transformative impact of Health Creation
• 09:00 – The link between chronic stress, trauma, and illness
• 11:00 – Learning heart coherence and the physiological sigh
• 14:00 – Understanding heart rate variability and nervous system balance
• 18:00 – Gratitude, hope, and emotional sovereignty
• 21:00 – Co-regulation: calming energy through presence
• 25:00 – What “self-connection” really means
• 27:00 – EFT tapping and communicating safety to the body
• 29:00 – Mindset shift: from despair to belief in healing
• 30:00 – What doctors could do differently
• 34:00 – Clare’s daily rituals for grounding and coherence
• 37:00 – Not a victim: resilience, grief, and emotional honesty
• 40:00 – Creating safe spaces for deep healing
• 42:00 – Closing reflections: witnessing with love

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