31 | TJ Schier – How To Survive the Copycat Trap in Entertainment
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Ever wondered why some entertainment businesses create obsession while others fizzle out? Are you craving a smart way to reinvent guest spaces, thrill your customers, and actually monetize “dead” square footage?
In this exclusive episode, J. Michael Fisher Jr. welcomes TJ Schier, CEO and founder of Smash Swing Immersive Golf, for a revealing, relationship-first conversation on shaping unforgettable guest experiences. From Chuck E. Cheese to multi-million dollar drive-thru chains, TJ shows why old playbooks don’t cut it and how he’s rewriting the rules for indoor golf, socializing, and competitive fun. They dig deep into building emotional loyalty, surviving the copycat trap, and the bold moves driving Smash Swing’s national launch.
Don’t wait! Each minute of this episode peels back what most founders miss, and why your next big win may depend on these electrifying lessons. Miss it, and you risk letting your greatest assets (and brand momentum) slip away. Listen now for candid, proven insights you won’t find anywhere else.
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