In this episode, Doug and Matt discuss how they view the world, how the way they view the world effects their relationship both positively and negatively.

In the second part of the podcast listen as Doug discusses his top five favorite books of 2025 and Matt discusses his top 15 and the one he isn't sure he likes or not.

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Doug and Matt look back upon 2025 with wonder and amazement they accomplished so much but also with understanding not everything went to plan. Then in part two they explore their goals for 2026.

Doug talks about the most overplayed Christmas songs on the radio and the games he plays involving the biggest culprits! Doug and Matt then discuss their holiday schedules and traditions plus Matt discusses his Aunt Chris' Pumpkin Pie Recipe. In the second section Matt dives deep into his latest hyperfixation which is writing a book of Roman leaders called Stewed Romans.

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