If you're in a season of depression, darkness, or difficulty, please listen to this episode. Justin McRoberts and Scott Erickson offer deep wisdom on how to welcome all that is within you (yes, even that). This interview is punctuated by powerful poems and prayers for whatever "low" you might be going through.

Justin McRoberts is the author of 8 books, including In The Low: Honest Prayers For Dark Seasons. He lives in Martinez, CA and talks with his mom every day. Connect with Justin at justinmcroberts.com or on Instagram @justinmcroberts.

Scott Erickson is an artist, author, and performance speaker creating a visual vocabulary for the spiritual journey. Connect with Scott at scottericksonart.com or on Instagram @scottthepainter.

Buy Justin and Scott's new book:

In The Low: Honest Prayers For Dark Seasons

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• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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What are HMA Triads? What makes them different from accountability groups? Why is joining a small group essential for outgrowing porn? Rich Savoy explains everything you need to know about HMA Triads, what makes them different than porn accountability groups, and why you should consider joining one. Join HMA by January 18, 2026 at joinHMA.com.

Rich Savoy is HMA's Director Of Small Groups. He is also a board member of Husband Material Ministries and an international speaker on emotional intelligence with Global Leadership Partners. Contact Rich inside the Husband Material Community.

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

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• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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God designed your brain to heal itself under the right conditions. How can we understand self-healing from a Christian perspective? What are the optimal conditions for self-healing? How can self-healing accelerate the process of outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll not only get answers to these questions—you'll witness a powerful demonstration of Brainspotting with Drew Boa and Mike Chapman.

This episode was recorded at the 2026 Porn Free Man Conference sponsored by Husband Material Academy (HMA). Join HMA now at joinHMA.com

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

• Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube
• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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What is Brainspotting? How can it help men heal and outgrow porn? Find out from Dr. David Grand himself! In this episode, you'll learn how Brainspotting works, why it's unique, and how it accelerates recovery from porn/sex addiction.

David Grand, PhD is the developer of Brainspotting, the groundbreaking relational brain-body, mindfulness-based method. He is the author of Brainspotting: The Revolutionary New Therapy for Rapid and Effective Change and the co-author of This is Your Brain on Sports. Dr. Grand has been widely featured in the media, including The New York Times, NBC National News, The Discovery Channel, CNN, MSNBC, Sports Illustrated, and Sirius Radio.

Curious about Brainspotting?

• Read the book by David Grand
• Find a Brainspotter near you on the international directory
• Work with Mike Chapman, Dr. Doug Carpenter, or Drew Boa (who are all Brainspotting Practitioners and Certified Husband Material Coaches).
• Join HMA to witness the power of Brainspotting (and maybe even try it out yourself) at Fantasy Fridays.

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The doors close on January 18.

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

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• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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What can the movie "K-Pop Demon Hunters" teach us about shame, hiding, and healing through vulnerability and connection? In this extended episode, Drew and his friend Andy offer an in-depth analysis of the film—addressing theological concerns, highlighting takeaways for sexual recovery, and tracing each character's redemptive journey. Enjoy!

Drew and Andy became friends at Wheaton College, serving together in college, church, and summer camp ministries. Andy has degrees in Christian theology and adventure-based experiential learning, and has been a participant and collaborator with Husband Material since 2023.

K-Pop Demon Hunters is available on Netflix. We recommend watching the "Sing-along" version.

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• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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In this incredibly vulnerable episode, Nate Larkin tells the story of how he returned to lying, hiding, binge drinking, and destructive sexual behavior while leading a sexual recovery organization. You'll also hear Nate's wisdom on how to be vulnerable as a leader and the importance of telling the truth.

Nate Larkin is the founder of the Samson Society, a fellowship of Christian men who are serious about authenticity, community, humility, and recovery. Learn more at samsonsociety.com

Buy Nate's book: Samson and the Pirate Monks: Calling Men To Authentic Brotherhood

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• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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What’s next for Husband Material? In this episode, you’ll hear the exciting new vision for how we want to help the next generation of young men and couples change their brains, heal their hearts, and save their relationships.

Here’s how you can be part of it:

1. Pray: husbandmaterial.com/pray
2. Give: husbandmaterial.com/give

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

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• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

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How can technology help you connect, heal, and outgrow porn? In this episode, Chandler Rogers tells his story of finding freedom through connection with others (even online) and shares what he has learned from overseeing hundreds of online groups. You'll find out what you're missing out on if you track your sobriety without tracking your recovery—and what healthy, shame-free accountability looks like.

Chandler Rogers is the CEO and co-founder of Relay, a group-based program to break free from the unhealthy system of addiction and find lasting freedom.

• Join Relay at joinrelay.app (App)
• Listen to Beyond Sexual Brokenness (Podcast)
• Download The Official Guide To Overcoming Pornography (PDF)

The doors to HMA are OPEN!
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The doors close on January 18.

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Take the Husband Material Journey...

• Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube
• Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community
• Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn
• Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy

Thanks for listening!