Rickie De Sole is the fashion editor at Air Mail, formerly at Vogue, Prada, and more. She just got back home to L.A. from Milan and Paris to chat with us about Jason hitting the EsDeeKid show the night before, third-party In-N-Out delivery, what color the Rimowa is and traveling with jewelry, an influx of Londoners in Milan, competitive sailing, stealing phones at the Brentwood Country Mart, Chris not being able to find a pair of shoes for his wife anywhere, using alcohol to sell clothes, legendary Prada sample sales, a Dries Van Noten necklace-belt, and the benefits of commercially viable products.

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Kurt Vile is a musician from Philadelphia. His great new record, Philadelphia’s been good to me, is out now. He returns to the pod from his home in Philadelphia to chat with us about Chris hitting Keith McNally’s son’s restaurant called Faux, ice cream, playing banjo at the punk club, Paul Revere’s Greek-style pizza, crying a bit after watching Beach House open for the Strokes, quantized drums and staying “off grid,” Bob Dylan being an alien, his favorite songs of the year so far, his thoughts on phone-free concerts, hangin’ out in the garage, guys only crying while watching TV, the vocal mix on “Wonderwall” being really loud, and having something really impressive planned for the “Pretty Pimpin” deluxe release.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris is in London, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about trouble at ComplexCon in Los Angeles, all the new clothing brands we don’t know, hoodies in triple-digit heat, Chris having to play a game at a small dinner party, Jason planning to see EsDeeKid next week, we celebrate Tinashe’s new album in an uplifting way, as well as her “2 On” remix featuring Drake and OB O’Brien, Diddy being forced to solicit male masseuses behind bars, Jason’s Apple iPhone shoulder strap, personal trainer slash cinematographers, Turnstile on SNL, and Queens of the Stone Age’s Josh Homme entering a rarified level of zaddy on the Ann Demeulemeester runway in Paris.

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Dylan Jones is a journalist and author. He edited GQ in the UK from 1999 to 2021, as well as i-D and Arena. He’s written several books, and his newest, Table Hopping, is out in time for Christmas. We chat with him from his home in London about Parisian chocolat, the Outkast Waffle House collaboration, how long he waits to try a new restaurant after it opens, F&B options at the Hollywood Bowl, why one shouldn’t remark on the food at a “meetings” restaurant, the hierarchy of seating at a horseshoe-style bar, what he was wearing in 1987, how many members’ clubs he’s a member of, La Colombe d’Or in the south of France, pan-Asian clubstaurants, the “second-best answer” you can give someone, the best name-dropper in London, our mutual DJ friends, and we analyze those who argue for sport.

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Norma Kamali is a fashion designer from New York. Her book, I Am Invincible, is out now in paperback. We chat with her from her studio about peanut butter sparkling water and piss-filled vinyl, dating Ian Schrager during Studio 54, the rise of fitness coinciding with the fall of dancing, group sweating and pheromones, dating the people you deserve to date, the evolution of activewear and natural fabrics, being anti-dry cleaning, candy from Pakistan, her thoughts on Galliano and the Met Gala, how old she wants to live to, and never retiring being the key to life.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris was in the Bay Area, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about a missing cat in the Hollywood Hills, approaching the iced coffee debate from all angles, hard-boiled eggs in the plastic bag, messages you don’t need to respond to, Chris was up all night coding at the Four Seasons, loving the Soulwax show, and going to the Meta event, Zuck and Wang’s outfit choices, Jimmy Fallon plugging the new Kith coffee table book, the Folsom Street Fair, and Jason eating at luxe new L.A. sports bar Thickman’s Tavern.

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Grace Ives is a musician from New York. See her on tour this year, opening for both Gracie Abrams and Olivia Rodrigo. Her newest record, Girlfriend, is out now. We chat about the “FAHH” sound effect, how she likes to struggle musically, RhymeZone.com, learning how to judge without being judgmental, Fiona Apple, how every year we get new words to use, how people in L.A. have “turtle shells,” her first and second records both getting an 8.4 on Pitchfork, getting a rash on her forehead, having a Toyota Corolla on her vision board, her boyfriend, Animal Collective, and being on Prozac.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Palo Alto, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris’ time off campus, a local lemonade stand that accepts digital tips, Jason driving Chris around in his car for the first time in a while, some celebrity sightings at the Chateau, what’s up with Don Toliver? Is Skims a clothing company or Kardashian merch? Jason in the new J.Crew Barn Jacket campaign with Ryan Beatty and Scottie Pippen, we show love to Stephen Dorff, Chris explores the Jo Koy Netflix special, millennial music supervision continuing with HBO’s Youth, what are you supposed to do when a robot walks out at Vogue World Milan? Shareable gym journeys, and would you let Tom Cruise pick your baby up without asking?

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