How Catholic saints fought fascism and showed up in hard times - with Meg Hunter-Kilmer
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How Catholic saints fought fascism and showed up in hard times - with Meg Hunter-Kilmer
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Meg Hunter-Kilmer has become “the Catholic saints lady” for a reason. In this conversation, she joins Chris to talk about how the lives of the saints can anchor us in an anxious, polarized, and often unjust world—especially for immigrants, the undocumented, and those who feel like they don’t belong in the Church or in the heart of God.
Meg shares stories of saints and blesseds who protested fascism, slept in migrant camps as bishops, were arrested dozens of times, or were literally undocumented immigrants killed in part for their legal status. She also highlights saints who struggled with illness, suicidal ideation, infertility, and bad personalities—reminding us that holiness doesn’t erase our rough edges.
00:00 The Importance of Saints
03:49 Saints as Models in Challenging Times
05:00 Examples of Saints in Oppression
06:28 Saints and Privilege
16:45 Saints in Unjust Imprisonment
23:44 Jewish Solidarity and Empowerment
24:09 Catholic Communities and Empowerment
31:05 Diverse Personalities of Saints
32:56 Community and Ingroup Dynamics
36:00 Responding to Suffering with Action
41:02 Connecting with Saints