Hannah and Stephen meet up with a long-standing friend and colleague to discuss ways in which our concept of home is shaped by social, economic and political forces. We explore how the idea of home shifted in the popular imagination over the course of the last century. Has 'home' now become synonymous with 'capital asset'? If homes are really our most intimate, emotional spaces, why would we want to put them under the hammer? Has the market finally found a way to monetise our inner lives and our most private experiences and choices?

Alison is past President of the Chartered Institute of Housing. She currently Chair of TPAS, the social housing engagement experts and Co-founder of SHOUT, the social housing campaign group. She describes herself as a housing enthusiast who is hard to pigeonhole. We wholeheartedly agree!

Today's obscure cultural reference from Stephen is to a Ben Okri story which touches his experiences during the 1960s regeneration of inner London. From: Okri, B (1993), Incidents at the Shrine. Despite voiciferous protestations, Hannah succeeds in brinding Michel Foucault into the debate.

Hannah once again promises to oil her squeaky desk, and is pleased to announce that the WD-40 has finally made it from her online basket to the checkout. In spite of our best endeavours to ensure the best possible recording quality, a diesel locomotive mysteriously appears in the studio.