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Disenchantment runs deep—for weary believers, pastors, and churches alike. In this conversation with Pastor Jerry Fourroux, we explore how the gospel restores wonder by turning our eyes again to the kindness of God in Christ. Drawing from Scripture, story, and lived experience, this episode reframes repentance not as dreary self-improvement but as a joyful return to grace. When God’s kindness leads the way, repentance becomes an invitation into beauty, freedom, and renewed imagination. If your faith feels tired, flattened, or disenchanted, this episode offers a hopeful reminder: Christ is still at work, tenderly drawing weary hearts from disenchantment to delight.

In this episode, they discuss…

• A Life of Repentance (16:10)
• Repentance as Running Toward Joy (26:45)
• Vivification, Sacraments, and Beauty (32:55)
• Revelation Pulls Back the Curtain (39:12)
• Beyond Deconstruction to Re-Enchantment (45:20)
• Providence, Politics, and Humility (51:20)

Thank you for listening! If you found this conversation encouraging or helpful, please share this episode with your friends and loved ones. Or please leave us a review—it really helps!

Referenced in this episode:

• Read 𝘙𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯: 𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘋𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 by Scotty Smith and 𝘚𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘎𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘦: 𝘈 𝘋𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘺 𝘋𝘦𝘷𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 & 𝘙𝘦𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦: 𝘈 𝘋𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘊𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘰 𝘙𝘦𝘢𝘭 𝘚𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 by Jack Miller
• Download our free e-book 𝘌𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘥𝘢𝘺 𝘙𝘦𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦: 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘗𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘑𝘰𝘺
• Revisit The Life-Giving Power of Christian Mentoring with Scotty Smith
• Explore more at serge.org/renewal
• Explore all that we have to offer and how you can participate at serge.org
• Bible references: Romans 2:4, Hebrews 13:2

Credits:

Our guest for this episode was Jerry Fourroux, pastor of Lycoming Centre Presbyterian Church (ECO) in Williamsport, PA. This episode was hosted by Jim Lovelady. Production by Evan Mader, Anna Madsen, and Grace Chang. Music by Tommy L.

𝑮𝒓𝒂𝒄𝒆 𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒓𝒂𝒚 𝑷𝒐𝒅𝒄𝒂𝒔𝒕 is produced by SERGE, an international missions agency that sends and cares for missionaries and develops gospel-centered programs and resources for ongoing spiritual renewal. Learn more and get involved at serge.org.

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In this season finale, Jim Lovelady invites us to listen again to the hum of God’s radical grace—a grace that refuses to be earned and meets us in both rebellion and self-righteous striving. Preaching from Luke 15, Jim explores why we love grace, why we resist it, and how Jesus tells these parables to unsettle proud hearts and tenderize weary ones. This episode proclaims the shocking good news that the Father runs toward prodigals of every kind, covers our shame at great cost to Himself, and invites us into the joy of the Kingdom—where grace reigns, and the party is already underway.

In this episode, they discuss…

• Writer’s Block and Grace Anxiety (02:28)
• When Grace Sounds Cliché (09:48)
• Jesus Welcomes the "Losers" (13:15)
• Why We Hate Grace (18:31)
• Troubled Hearts and Humility (24:05)
• Communion as Weekly Celebration (35:05)

Thank you for listening! If you found this conversation encouraging or helpful, please share this episode with your friends and loved ones. Or please leave us a review—it really helps!

Referenced in this episode:

• Read 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘙𝘦𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘥𝘪𝘨𝘢𝘭 𝘚𝘰𝘯: 𝘈 𝘚𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘏𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨
• Give to Missionary Care and get your gift doubled until December 31st
• Listen to or watch Rose Marie Miller Podcast: What Kingdom Centered Prayer Looks Like & Rose Marie Miller Podcast: A Hundred Years of Grace: Celebrating Rose Marie Miller
• Bible references: Luke 15, Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Credits:

Our host for this episode was Jim Lovelady, pastor, musician, and program leader on Serge’s Renewal team. Production by Evan Mader, Anna Madsen, and Grace Chang. Music by Tommy L.

𝑮𝒓𝒂𝒄𝒆 𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒓𝒂𝒚 𝑷𝒐𝒅𝒄𝒂𝒔𝒕 is produced by SERGE, an international missions agency that sends and cares for missionaries and develops gospel-centered programs and resources for ongoing spiritual renewal. Learn more and get involved at serge.org.

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