In this episode of Operation Be, I sit down with Pat Doyle for an honest, grounded conversation about growth, fatherhood, and what it really means to show up as a man today. Pat’s journey—from professional baseball to mortgage lending, podcasting, and parenting—has been shaped by real-life experiences that forced him to slow down, reflect, and evolve.

We talk openly about mental health, emotional intelligence, and the responsibility that comes with being a present father and a self-aware leader. Pat shares how navigating divorce changed the way he approaches parenting, personal accountability, and his own inner work—and why choosing growth over ego has mattered more than anything.

This episode is about aligning purpose with practice, learning from life instead of running from it, and understanding that clarity doesn’t come from having all the answers—it comes from being willing to look inward.

Whether you’re a parent, a professional, or someone committed to doing the work to live with more intention, this conversation offers perspective, honesty, and a reminder that growth is always available when you choose it.

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01:53 The Zach and Pat Show

03:21 Fatherhood and Personal Growth

06:00 Navigating Divorce and Co-Parenting

08:58 Relationships and Emotional Intelligence

20:44 The Importance of Vulnerability

28:22 Using Social Media for Business and Personal Growth

31:30 The Identity Crisis for Men

32:06 Comfort in Solitude

32:50 Promoting Positive Masculinity

34:11 The Impact of Toxic Labels

35:32 The Importance of Listening

37:02 Building Community and Values

44:20 Rapid Fire Questions

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