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What happens when the truth doesn’t arrive as a single moment, but hides in plain sight for years?

In this episode of Family Twist, Corey and Kendall sit down with Dr. Nicole Price, a DNAngels Board Advisor whose discovery that her father wasn’t her biological parent came not from a sudden match, but from something she didn’t notice for nearly a decade. A small line of text. A quiet warning. A truth everyone else already seemed to know.

Nicole shares what it was like to realize she may have been the only person in her family kept in the dark, and how that silence reshaped her sense of self, her relationships with her siblings, and her understanding of empathy. She talks candidly about anger, betrayal, grief, and the physical toll this kind of discovery can take, including anxiety, identity disorientation, and the need for trauma-informed support.

This conversation explores what it means to grieve the person you thought you were, why “you’re still the same” can feel dismissive instead of comforting, and how healing doesn’t come from minimizing the impact of a DNA surprise, but from honoring it. Nicole also reflects on reconnecting with her biological father later in life, adjusting expectations, and learning to sit with silence rather than trying to force a relationship to be something it isn’t.

Nicole now helps others navigate these moments through her work with DNAngels, offering empathy and guidance to people who are just beginning to process their own discoveries.

Nicole will also be speaking at Untangling Our Roots, where she’ll be part of the DNAngels presence supporting attendees who are in the middle of discovery, grief, and integration.

This episode is for anyone who has ever been told to move on too quickly, who felt their body react before their mind could catch up, or who needed reassurance that this kind of truth really is a big deal.

Guest bio: Dr. Nicole Price is no stranger to the transformative power of empathy. Her personal journey, beginning with the revelation at 45 that her father wasn’t her biological parent, launched her exploration of empathy’s profound impact. These experiences now shape her professional approach, blending her technical, results-focused background with empathetic understanding.

Dr. Price’s dynamic genealogy workshops, consulting, and keynotes equip others with practical strategies to enhance their research. With her energetic presentation style, she inspires participants to apply empathy to their genealogical work.

She holds a B.S. in Chemical Engineering from North Carolina A&T University, a Master’s in Adult Education from Park University, and a Doctorate in Leadership and Management from Capella University. Postdoctoral studies were completed at Stanford University.

Key Takeaways

• A DNA discovery doesn’t have to be loud to be life-altering. Quiet realizations and delayed understanding can hit just as hard.
• Finding out you were the only one who didn’t know creates a unique kind of grief, one rooted in betrayal, silence, and isolation.
• “You’re still the same person” can feel invalidating. Discovery often changes how someone understands themselves, their body, and their place in their family.
• This kind of revelation is a grief event, not just new information. Grieving who you thought you were is part of healing.
• Your body often reacts before your mind can catch up. Anxiety, disorientation, and physical symptoms are common and real.
• There is no correct timeline for processing discovery. Pausing, pulling back, or limiting new information can be an act of self-care.

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What happens when a father and daughter meet for the first time, in adulthood, and decide to build the relationship in public, in real time?

In this episode of Family Twist, Corey sits down with Joseph McGill Jr. and his daughter Charity Barriere Muhammad, who reunited just six months ago and are already preparing to share their story on stage together at Untangling Our Roots Summit 2026 in Atlanta, March 19–22, 2026.

Joseph is the founder and Executive Director of The Slave Dwelling Project, an effort that brings attention to the overlooked structures where enslaved people lived by arranging overnight stays in extant slave dwellings, creating space for truth-telling, dialogue, and public education. He is also the coauthor of Sleeping with the Ancestors: How I Followed the Footprints of Slavery, a deeply personal account of that work and what it reveals about American history, memory, and legacy.

Charity is a cultural storyteller, educator, author, and the visionary behind Gumbo for the Soul, blending ancestry, creativity, and community. In Corey’s conversation with Charity and Joseph, you’ll hear how reunion has expanded her sense of identity, including the way heritage and family history show up in food, traditions, and the stories we tell ourselves about where we come from.

Together, Joseph and Charity speak candidly about the early days of reunion, learning trust, holding space for hard truths, and what it means to build a relationship as two adults who both had full lives before they ever met. They also talk about what they hope others in the adoption, donor-conceived, and NPE communities take from their experience, especially those who are still searching, still processing, or still afraid to ask the next question.

Kendall will be attending Untangling Our Roots for the first time, and this episode is part preview, part love letter to the messy middle, where healing is real, but so is the work.

In this episode, we cover

• What six months of reunion can feel like, emotionally and practically
• Nature and nurture moments, when similarities show up in unexpected ways
• Trust-building after a lifetime without a parent-child relationship
• How Joseph’s work as a public historian shapes his view of legacy and family
• How food, recipes, and cultural inheritance become part of reunion
• Why therapy, patience, and “doing your part” matter in late discovery family connections
• What Joseph and Charity hope their on-stage conversation sparks for others at Untangling Our Roots

Guest spotlight

Joseph McGill Jr.
Founder and Executive Director, The Slave Dwelling Project.
Coauthor, Sleeping with the Ancestors: How I Followed the Footprints of Slavery.

Charity Barriere Muhammad
Founder, Gumbo for the Soul, author, educator, cultural storyteller.

Mentioned in this episode

• Untangling Our Roots Summit 2026 (Atlanta, March 19–22, 2026)
• The Slave Dwelling Project
• Sleeping with the Ancestors: How I Followed the Footprints of Slavery
• Gumbo for the Soul

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Last March, Corey attended Untangling Our Roots Summit in Denver for the first time. He went alone, unsure what to expect, and quietly wondering if he belonged there at all.

In this solo episode, Corey reflects on walking into a room where everyone already spoke the same language. Adoptees, donor-conceived people, NPEs, MPEs, birth parents, adoptive parents, partners, spouses, and allies, all in one space, without hierarchy or comparison. What began as a moment of imposter syndrome quickly turned into connection, recognition, and relief.

This year feels even more meaningful. Corey and Kendall are attending together, and both will be speaking. Corey will be interviewing filmmaker Lisa Brenner, whose work explores identity, truth, and family through storytelling. Kendall will be moderating a powerful panel, “Who Am I? Is This Me. A Male Perspective,” centering men’s voices in conversations about identity disruption and discovery.

This episode is an invitation. To anyone who has ever felt alone after a DNA discovery. To anyone still trying to understand where they fit. To anyone who needs to sit in a room where they don’t have to explain themselves.

Untangling Our Roots is the largest gathering of these communities anywhere in the world, and it only happens every other year. If you miss it this March, the next one won’t be until 2028.

You don’t need all the answers. You just need to show up.